Heidenau Vs Mefo

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  1. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    I know there’s been a fare bit of talk about these tyres.. I’m looking to try them on my SE.
    Has anyone tried them on the SE, mileage? Handling?
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    Talked to a GS guy who said he get 15k miles out of a set of Mefo's !!!!!!!
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  2. Balsta

    Balsta Been here awhile

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    Just returned from a 5daytrip with differents kinds of surfaces with a TKC80 on front and a new Heidenau on rear:
    -The Heidenau lies between the TKC80 and the Metzler Sahara in terms of grip on dirt
    -It lives say 80 % of the Sahara's miles on tarmac
    -I couldn't tell any difference on the grip on tarmac compared with the Sahara or the Scorpion
    -It's cheaper than the Sahara (at least in Europe)

    After 40000 miles with endless number of tyres on all kinds of surfaces, experience with the original Karoos, Pirelli Scorpions, Metzler Enduro 3 Sahara, Michelin Anakee front and now the Heidenau, I will:

    -never put the Scorpions again (less miles than the Sahara and worse grip on dirt as well)
    -TKC80 on front when I need to brake safely on dirt
    -Anakee front when/if 100% tarmac (never on dirt though so it won't ever be on my bike again)
    -always choose the TKC80 instead of the Karoos (lifelength so much better)
    -Heidenau on rear when I ride mixed dirt/tarmac (the bite on dirt is actually almost as good as the TKC80)

    Next to try is the Heidenau on front. Next week or so.
    I have not yet tried any hardcore offroad tyres.
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  3. Strobes

    Strobes It's go time!!

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    Any good deals out there on the Heidenau? I'm still waiting on the Mefo's and I have an upcomming trip...Heading for West Fest after a short trip around Colorado and need a set of tires before I head out.
    Thanks for the help...
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  4. fire_strom

    fire_strom Long timer

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    Where you going? You could do a 606/908 set up while you wait for the Mefos. Wicked cheap here.
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    The link doesn't work what is the name of the website?
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  7. retired motoman

    retired motoman LifeIsShort,EnjoyTheRide!

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    The Mefo are great. Kinda hard to find te 150 size for the SE/Adventure. As far as milage my Se was getting 1100 to 1300 miles max on the rear TKC80's. And with the Mefo's a max of 5000 miles. It is a lot better on the black top, better in the gravel, almost as good in the mud but not so much in loose sand. Overall very happy. I still run a TKC 80 front tire.
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  8. Mark950

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    We are busy testing the Heidi 150x18 for the 950 at the moment here in South Africa. So far :thumbup
    I tried the 140x18 but found the 950 was just too much for the tyre. Killed the tyre in 3500km, some guys have got to 8000kms so I think it all depends how you ride.

    but so far the 150x18 is looking good.
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  9. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    15K miles??? That what I thought.

    They seem to be very similar, well identical tread pattern. Wonder if they used the same mould/manufacturer? I’m happy with the Karoo up front but I’m eating rear Sahara 3’s.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    charlie264 Long timer

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    The combo I've stuck with is Karroo front and Sahara rear, but your saying the Sahara rear lives longer than the Heidenau? The reason I use this combo is money costs more than anything else but the price difference between the Sahara and Heidenau is minimal.
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  11. Oranjaman

    Oranjaman Into-The-Out-Of

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    Mark - are u talking about the 950 SE with wich u are testing the 150x18's? I got about 2000K from the 140 so far - on/off road and it is performing well. What kinda max speed is safe on tar with the tyer?:ricky
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  12. AvonTier

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    I am a bit confused after this weekend. I did a trip with the 640 friday and saturday, and with the 990 on sunday. I've had the 640 for 3 months now, and the 990 for 3 weeks.

    I did 550 km's on the 640 including a lot of really tough no-road sandy/rocky hills. I had a very light load on the back. Tyres are TKC 80's front and rear, still in very good condition.

    On the 990 I did around 100km's, including a mix on thick loose sand and some very rocky terrain. No load. Tyres are the OEM Scorpions.

    Now, what puzzles me is that the 990 is way better in the sand. I had to really be on top of my game with the 640 all the time or it would just blow out from under me, especially in the sand. I could not trust the front end for any support in the loose stuff. The 990 felt much more secure, especially in the sand. I really expected it to be the other way around, i.e. Lighter bike + knobbies = better in the sand. :huh
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  13. Mark950

    Mark950 Been here awhile

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    Nope I'm testing the 150x18 on the adv, very happy with them so far.
    I had 140's on the ADV before and killed them in 3500kms. IMO the 140 is excellent for the 650's but not on the 950/990.
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  14. Oranjaman

    Oranjaman Into-The-Out-Of

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    Do you know if the 150's will fit the SE and if anyone has tested them?
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    Pointman0853 Unregistered Gun Owner

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    I e-mailed John Bettencourt @ Moto Amore regarding availabilty of the 150's. Here is his reply...

    " Hello, I'm glad to hear they're working for you (The 140's I ordered). So far this is the second time I've been asked for a 150 in 18". If there's more demand for them I'll start carrying them. John B"

    OK folks, you know what to do. If you want Heidi's in 150x18, e-mail John at: mailto:motoamore@hotmail.com.

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  16. G-Funk

    G-Funk That ... Umm ..... "Dude"

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    E-mail sent ...... :thumb

    This tire is exactly what I'm looking for, for my 990.

    With that said, and even though one poster stated that they didn't think the 140/80 - 18 was good for the 950 / 990 .... for those that do run it, what do you all think ????

    I'm considering getting a 140/80 - 18 ....... to replace my rear tkc80.

    G.
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  17. DakarBlues

    DakarBlues One-everythinged man

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    The first 1500 miles were quite squirrely, but now they settled down.
    It's a great tire in the rain as well as on the dry.
    Problem is I haven't had the opportunity of running it on dirt but they weem tailored for that and many inmates praised it on the dusty stuff.
    I'm sure the 150 is the cat's pyjama and I'll arrange to have one next.
    140 is definitely a bit too narrow for a big girl like this with a 4.00 to 4.25 rear rim.
    If you plan on doing mainly pavement, get a Scorpion over the MEFO 140!
    If you can find a 150 then go for it, cos' I'm sure it would beat the Scorp everywhere.
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  18. Brown Dog

    Brown Dog North Georgia Dual Sportr

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    the 140 rear tire is better matched to a 2.5" rim. the 150 will fit, but its
    too wide for all of the tread to run on the ground. i run a 150 tire with a
    4" rim on my 950 SE. i dont think motoz comes in a 150. the 140 tire works
    fine on a 4" rim. just my .02 cents :D
    the tkc knobs aren't long enough. it looks half worn out when its new.
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  19. G-Funk

    G-Funk That ... Umm ..... "Dude"

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    I have no intentions of going with a Scorp again ...... :lol3

    I'd do up a super explorer rear over that ...... but I REALLY dig the possible price on the K60. My riding is a mix of tarmac and gravel / dirt FS roads on my 990. For the tighter, wonkier stuff I take my 620a ..... :nod

    With the season closing here in the PNW, and being forced to do mainly local riding, I don't even have to swap out my rear tkc just yet. And for the rest of the year, any DSing will be done on the 620 or my DRZ ...... so I can wait.

    I hope John at moto-amore does start stocking the 150 - 18 ..... because for the price, it would be sweet.

    Right now I can get a set of Scorps :puke1 for just under 200 bucks. Good price, but I don't like the tire.
    A set of tkc's will run me around 280. :puke1
    A set of super explorers will run me around 270 :puke1

    I'd probably opt for the super explorers over the tkc's - which by the way, my front tkc is absolutely fine still ......

    I really wanna try out the K60's though .......

    Here's to waiting and hoping ...... :beer

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  20. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    So how is the consensus developing?
    Is the Heidenau K60 equaling the MEFO SE 150/70/18?
    Milliage, grip on blacktop?
    Cheers.
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