Helicopters R Us

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Weirdo, Dec 23, 2004.

  1. gbranham

    gbranham Double eye

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    That would be some STC! The push/pull tubes for the MR and tail rotor control are housed in the "closet".
  2. Vagabond_Explorer

    Vagabond_Explorer Relax_Unwind_Chill

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    You're right, of course. It'd be very hard. I was thinking along the lines of a 'fly by wire' control unit that gathers up info from the cyclic, collective, pedals then passes it via an optic fibre onto another box on the roof that moves the actuators, then to the tail to control the TR pitch links.

    Bell just keeps making machines that looks like their old Jet Rangers then wonder why EC, Agusta, Robinsons all steal their market share.
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    All are built under the same type certificate up to the 427.
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  10. Hedge36

    Hedge36 My e-penis is huge.

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    I don't think "looks" have that much bearing on Bell's bottom line. And I seriously doubt Robinson has made much of an impact on Bell's market share :lol3
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  12. Vagabond_Explorer

    Vagabond_Explorer Relax_Unwind_Chill

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    Weirdo:

    Therein lies the problem. The LR looks like the JR. The 407 looks like the LR. The 427 looks like a 407 on steroids. All share the same terrible setup of 2 compartments, poor visibility (to the front) for the back compartment seats, no crashworthy seats, no leg room (for the LR and 407) and skinny seats. Bell gave the scenic flight niche to EC, R44/66, IMHO.

    Hedge36:

    I agree. The Bells look great. Sitting inside is the difference. EC has more modern layout, all facing forward, one compartment, etc. I beg to differ on the Robinson comment. R66 was designed solely to win against the 206B. I know of at least 8 operators who have replaced their JR's either for tourist flights or corporate work with R44's/R66's.

    BTW I think Robinsons are ugly beasts. Don't want this to be a 'pick on Bell' discussion - I like both brands ; it's just that Bell had the whole market to themselves at one stage and they squandered it all.
  13. emerson.biguns

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  14. UnderNewOwnership

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    Robinsons are ugly, with their squat bodies and weird rotor mast.

    I like the Colibri best. It's just... I dunno, clean-looking.
  15. Vagabond_Explorer

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    A bygone era helicopter. Ingenius creation of Arthur Young.

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    jdgretz Looking for new places

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    Primary instrument training at Ft. Rucker in 1969 was done in the OH-13S turbocharged model of these guys (I had the ball in the needle/ball gauge freeze in position one day - really baffled how the instructor pulled that one off).

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  17. Vagabond_Explorer

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    As I recall, around 400 of these were built for the Army to replace the H Model. The MR Blade was 1 foot longer and the tail boom was 14 inches longer. It had a Lycoming engine too.

    But I didn't know they were equipped for IFR training?! Must have been interesting flying in the soup.
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    Yeah, really interesting when the controls started icing. Most of the time it was under the hood. In advanced instruments we headed to the clouds on purpose in the Hueys that actually had real instrumentation and flying in locations that had working approaches. Doing instrument approaches in Nam with minimal working instruments was always interesting - did a lot of NDB stuff and more than a few GCAs courtesy of the Air Force at Phu Cat Air Base. Never saw a working ILS as the Air Force was mostly TACAN.

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  19. Vagabond_Explorer

    Vagabond_Explorer Relax_Unwind_Chill

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    Were the controls hydraulic on the OH13S's?
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    Helicopter pilots have all the fun!

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