Helicopters R Us

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Weirdo, Dec 23, 2004.

  1. Hay Ewe

    Hay Ewe Just a Wannabe

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    Old pilots and bold pilots..... just sayin'
  2. canuckAME

    canuckAME Been here awhile

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    I love winter ops
    You get up close with mother nature

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    Travel to exotic spots

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    Dress up your helicopter in nice quilted pajama's

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    Blow sweet nothings in her ear to wake her from a long winter nap

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    Give her lots of TLC and encouragement to take on the days challenges

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    And hope the natural and artificial windchill don't freeze you solid:huh

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    I don't know what the windchill is with a temp of -35C and the downwash off the main rotor but it is f&%king cold
  3. EvilGenius

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  4. jtb

    jtb Long timer

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    I know nothing about helicopters and snow...

    Can someone please tell me what's going on with the blankets and the hot air hose (I assume that's what it is) thingo... I'm thinking it's to keep things warmer than if they weren't covered and the hot air is to warm 'stuff' up.

    But a more technical answer would be better :D
  5. Hay Ewe

    Hay Ewe Just a Wannabe

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  6. canuckAME

    canuckAME Been here awhile

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    The engine and gearboxes have small electric heater pads attached to them. These are plugged in overnight and the covers help to keep the heat in and the wind and snow out. The heater and hoses blow hot air to help warm things up when it gets really cold. I think it was -35C the morning I took the pictures.

    If you have to work on the machine you try and aim the hoses at what you are working on so your hands don't freeze up quite so quick. It sucks when you put a wrench down and pick it up and it freezes to your hands.

    Even the synthetic turbine oil gets pretty thick at these temperatures without preheat.

    On the plus side no bugs.
    "It's no sweat in the arctic"
  7. Hardware02

    Hardware02 Long timer

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    What model helo is that?

    I've been beneath a CH135 during takeoff in Labrador in around -30C...it instantly went to a windchill of about -700C...:D

    Would've been this one or a hangar-mate...

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  8. Weirdo

    Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM"

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    Congratulations!
    Today is your day.
    You're off to Great Places!
    You're off and away!

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    You can steer yourself
    any direction you choose.
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    And you may not find any
    you'll want to go down.
    In that case, of course,
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    It's opener there
    in the wide open air.

    Out there things can happen
    and frequently do
    to people as brainy
    and footsy as you.

    And then things start to happen,
    don't worry. Don't stew.
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    Because, sometimes, you won't.

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    but, sadly, it's true
    that Bang-ups
    and Hang-ups
    can happen to you.

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    in a prickle-ly perch.
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    with an unpleasant bump.
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    that you'll start in to race
    down long wiggled roads at a break-necking pace
    and grind on for miles cross weirdish wild space,
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    all that waiting and staying
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    once more you'll ride high!
    Ready for anything under the sky.
    Ready because you're that kind of a guy!

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    There are points to be scored. There are games to be won.
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    Except when they don't
    Because, sometimes they won't.

    I'm afraid that some times
    you'll play lonely games too.
    Games you can't win
    'cause you'll play against you.

    All Alone!
    Whether you like it or not,
    Alone will be something
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    you'll meet things that scare you right out of your pants.
    There are some, down the road between hither and yon,
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    though the weather be foul.
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    though your enemies prowl.
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    though the Hakken-Kraks howl.
    Onward up many
    a frightening creek,
    though your arms may get sore
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    with many strange birds as you go.
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    Step with care and great tact
    and remember that Life's
    a Great Balancing Act.
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    And never mix up your right foot with your left.

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    So...
    be your name Buxbaum or Bixby or Bray
    or Mordecai Ali Van Allen O'Shea,
    You're off the Great Places!
    Today is your day!
    Your mountain is waiting.
    So...get on your way!
  9. EvilGenius

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    Heat pads like already mentioned.

    The hot air into the turbine is to not only to help warm up the oil, but also to melt any ice inside and blow it out the back. Hard ice can FOD an engine.

    Hung starts can happen if it's super cold inside too.
  10. Weirdo

    Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM"

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    On cold days the heaters are used to warm engines and transmissions before the first start of the day.

    The routine goes something like this:

    Right after shut down you put the blankets and blade covers on and if installed plug the Tanis heaters in. Tanis heaters are basically heating pads that are glued to the cases of the transmissions and other critical parts. Then you place car heaters under the dash to try to keep the instruments from getting too cold and anywhere else you think you're going to need them.

    In the morning you get up (in -40 degree temps) and head out to the machine right away and fire up the diesel heater (thing with the hoses (that's running on jet fuel)) and put the hoses under the covers and let her rip, then go back for breakfast.

    When its time to fire up, pull the blankets off and remove the hoses and heaters. Ideally when you put the battery busses on the oil temps should already be in the green.

    If you were to try to fire up a cold soaked machine you'd blow out the seals and basically wreck the thing. Especially a Bell medium. They like to be woken up gently. :wink:
  11. jtb

    jtb Long timer

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    Thanks Weirdo and all the others for the info :clap
  12. mikegc

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    Those photos of Hueys are great. I'm glad to see them still in service. Here's one I took in 1970. The back of the picture had "War Zone D."
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  13. Hedge36

    Hedge36 My e-penis is huge.

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    Preferably with a bit of spooning and some light pillow talk.
  14. canuckAME

    canuckAME Been here awhile

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    Someone asked and the machine in the snowstorm is a EC130B4
    Basically a pimped out A Star.

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  15. EvilGenius

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    Yup, same airframe (I think same TCDS too), just different composite shell for a cockpit and stuck a fenestron on the tailboom.

    The new T2 versions have FADEC and full glass cockpit options. :evil
  16. rawdog

    rawdog Been here awhile

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    Enjoying the winter pics!
  17. canuckAME

    canuckAME Been here awhile

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    Our B4's have a Chelton/Cobham flat panel installation. Being made in Texas they don't like the real cold:huh
    There's a built in heater in the screens but it can take up to 20 minutes for the magic to appear without preheat.
    The B4 has a dual channel FADEC with self contained electronic backup.

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  18. EvilGenius

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    Yeah, I guess it's a little cool up there with that white stuff everywhere.

    Maybe it's standard now or something. They made a big deal about last year with the introduction on the T2. I was surprised that they didn't offer it before then, but apparently they did.
  19. Hay Ewe

    Hay Ewe Just a Wannabe

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    After much working with and multiple phone calls, sometimes whit 4 people on a conference call - 3 langauges, I was able to get this delivered today, ready to re-assemble for us! :clap

    Its an S76C, we also have C++ and probably / hopefully more this year. We are also looking for drivers too, S76, B212, B412, B206, B407, AS350 (and fixed wing DHC6, ATR42 and B1900) - pm me if you interested

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  20. jdgretz

    jdgretz Looking for new places

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    I presume those positions are in AUS?

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