Helmet / bike camera (merged) mega threadfest...

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by AJ2, May 14, 2002.

  1. NordieBoy

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  2. dhaynes

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    The only unfortunate feature is the four-letter word printed on the side. If it's a Sony product, it will have proprietary batteries, proprietary software required to manipulate the data, Proprietary DRM problems, proprietary memory, proprietary jacks etc.

    That camera could have a built in wet bar and BBQ a hamburger in 3 minutes flat and I'd still pass it up unless I had a chance to use a demo for a couple of weeks and make sure it actually does what I'd want it to do.

    I wondered why there were some places having sales on the GoPro Hero2. I'd bet the Sony is at least valuable in that it will drive down prices.

    I've had a fair amount of Sony stuff over the years and the most infuriating thing about their stuff is that *if* your needs and Sony's legal department agree, it will work fine. However the lawyers are always in there nitpicking on what you can/can't do with it.

    It's just always the case with Sony.

    Betamax about sums it up. Better technology, sued into oblivion.

    I've still got a really nice Sony MD player. The audio quality is excellent and the media size was brilliant at the time. Sony locked it up with DRM and proprietary formats. Sued into oblivion.

    I've got a really nice Sony video DVD burner that doesn't require a PC. Connect it to your VCR and push a couple of buttons and it will record your (S)VHS tapes to DVD. As long as it doesn't decide that home videos made on your own camcorder are copy protected. Then it will refuse to copy the tapes no matter what you do.

    I've still got some useless Sony memory sticks around from the Sony camcorder I used to use for recording my rides. Today you pay $18 for 4GB Pro Duo, but for 4GB SDHC it's $5.

    Don't even get me started on their voice recorders. The older ones require truly horrid proprietary software just to access the audio files, at a time when almost everyone else just offered a USB connection and a FAT32 file system.

    Blueray just continues the tradition. They "won" the legal battle over HD-DVD. Want a Blueray drive for your PC? Fork out $90 to $100 and $2 per disk. Want a DVD-DL drive? $17 for a really good one plus $0.50 per disk. That's about what HD-DVD would have cost you today had Sony not spent millions to kill it.

    I'd be very cautious about any Sony product. Definitely try it before you buy it.
  3. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I have about 20 sony md units. From rack mount to walkman.
    Players recorders.
    Oh and the 4 track md's...

    Always liked some of the features, discusted with others.
    :dealDon't get me started as I've been through the mill.
    (even with the top brass @ sony)
  4. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    It has a Memory Stick Micro and microSD/SDHC memory card slot.
  5. c.vestal

    c.vestal Rally On

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  6. ThomD

    ThomD Is this thing on?

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    I finally picked up a Replay XD 1080. It has the features I was looking for:

    When wired to the bike (which I will do eventually), power on auto starts recording. Power off stops recording after 1-5 minutes (user config). Eventually this will be on the bike permanently so that it can my be accident cam.

    A full card makes it start over writing older vids instead of just stopping. Quick press of the start/stop button when recording starts a new recording.

    The shape (think small flashlight) makes it easy to mount and align. It is currently on my helmet and doesn't cause much/any buffeting at speed. When you turn it on/off and start/stop recording, it vibrates. I can feel this through the helmet, so it is easy to tell if it is recording or not. When it is recording, the on/off button doesn't do anything, so you can't accidentally stop it because you tried to turn it on.

    Video quality, as with most, is good. Check youtube for better comparo videos than I could do.
  7. Alloveroz

    Alloveroz RaceRecall

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    Here's some more info and sample videos of the Sony Action Cam
    http://actioncam.net.au


    RaceRecall.com
    Video Cameras, Data Loggers & Drones
    6/25-41 Redwood Drive Dingley Village VIC 3172
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    (03) 9017 7813
  8. RideFreak

    RideFreak Torque Junkie

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    The color looks saturated in the 1080P drag race vid :cry
    I have high hopes for this camera.

  9. Alloveroz

    Alloveroz RaceRecall

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    Might be in their edit. I'm getting stock in the next coupel of days, so stay posted for some side by side comparisons with GoPro etc
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    RideFreak Torque Junkie

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  11. c.vestal

    c.vestal Rally On

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  12. WVa Dualsport

    WVa Dualsport Been here awhile

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  13. munchmeister

    munchmeister Grow'd Up Mini Trail

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    Which camera is that?

    Seems everybody is making "HD" cameras now.

    I'm still using my VIO POV 1.5 but like the time lapse feature of these and with higher quality stills, that might move me to buy again.

  14. ThomD

    ThomD Is this thing on?

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    That's a Replay.
  15. munchmeister

    munchmeister Grow'd Up Mini Trail

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    Really like the form factor, i.e. small, light and tight for the helmet. Not sure I'd have an HDMI screen with me to check framing of my shot, which is one thing I like about the VIO POV, which has a separate DVR unit and 2" screen. But, it has a cord.

    I also really like the rotating mount. My rides aren't always that exciting but I would like to turn it to catch some of the scenery along side the road and that little mount would make that pretty easy. Likin' it more and more.

    Only issue for me is how frickin' much computer power you need for simple editing of 1080p. :huh
  16. c.vestal

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    Quite sure that is a Contour HD.
    Contour GPS and Contour+ models have a bluetooth connection. With a free app and a smartphone you can see the view out the camera and adjust your framing. no extra screen or cables needed. I have even used mine as a backup camera to hook up my trailer :evil

    Just about any laptop $500 or more made in the last couple years, can edit 1080p fine. *if you have good software.
  17. ThomD

    ThomD Is this thing on?

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    Oops. You are right. You can see the name on the box on the table.
  18. munchmeister

    munchmeister Grow'd Up Mini Trail

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    What do you recommend for the software editing (PC). I've got an older version of CyberLink PowerDirector, vers. 7, I think, which works well enough for 720p despite its goofy interface. Some of the software programs don't seem to keep up with all the various codecs, etc. that these cameras use. This shit gets expensive though, when the Contour line up with blue tooth is around $400 without and add ons. Shit you can buy a decent entry DSLR for that money. Amazing what "small" can cost you.

    Recommendations?
  19. c.vestal

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    For PC, I think Premiere Elements is the best bang for the buck. $100 for the full version. Adobe keeps up with codecs and there is a strong support community behind it. Performance kicks up if you have Windows7 in the 64bit version.


  20. NordieBoy

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    Novacut has potential...