Helmet Mirrors

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by jigdog, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. jigdog

    jigdog Been here awhile

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    A few years ago I tried the Bugeye helmet mirror. I was riding a Yamaha FZ-1 which had unbelieveably bad mirrors and was desperate to find something better. The Bugeye proved to be a revelation. It is so much better than ANY mirror on a motorcycle I have used! Just one on the side of your helmet gives you a clear view behind you from shoulder to shoulder of the road. Because you can move the mirror when you turn your head, there is NOTHING behind you that cannot be seen. Excellent in every respect. Try one they are only $10. I am surprised not to see more of them! (I have no ties to Bugeye I do this as a public service)
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  2. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    How about a link to them?

    Jim :brow
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    http://www.bugeyes.com/

    I'd been thinking about these recently and wondering about fixing one to the peak on my Tour X. I'd then be able to see what was happening behind while standing on the pegs.
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  4. jigdog

    jigdog Been here awhile

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  5. fixer

    fixer KLR-riding cheap bastard

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    i used to use a Miricycle (sp?) helmet mirror on my old hardshell Bell bicycle helmets. good stuff, but you can experience some eyestrain when first using them. once you get used to it, it's not an issue. the newer bicycle helmets had thinner shells and didn't let the mirror mount to them, there may be a stick-on version now.
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  6. MrPickle

    MrPickle NP Extraordinaire

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    Whoa...those are interesting! The GS mirrors aren't good for anything past a car length or two at speed. Seeing as how the bike promotes hooliganism, it'd be nice to see rollers in the rear view before they're bouncing blue light off the back of your helmet.

    Thought: I'm over 40 and need reading glasses e.g. my eye muscles don't adjust near-to-far as good as they used to...I wonder how those (really close) mirrors would work for a guy like me when toggling my focus between them and the car ahead.....?
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  7. KCDakar

    KCDakar What are we waiting for?

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    Not so much....I also have the same issue.:patch
    But maybe Lasics (sic?) would help!
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  8. 2dumbnotto

    2dumbnotto Been here awhile

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    One of the guys I ride with made a mirror from a mechanics inspection mirror. One bolt through the visor and your done.
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  9. jigdog

    jigdog Been here awhile

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    Well whatever issues you have FOR $10 you can get a Bugeye and experiment! Yes MIRRORS SUCK on motorcycles! Compared to these at least. (BTW I lied. I get $100 for every mirror I get you to buy)
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  10. GSWayne

    GSWayne Old Guy nOOb

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    It is interesting, I use a helmet mounted mirror on my bicycle every day, but never thought of using one on a motorcycle. I would worry about wind buffeting or noise, but I am sure that will vary for every bike, windshield, helmet, and rider size variation.
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  11. hgulledge

    hgulledge Adventurer-of-sorts

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    IIRC from what little college physics that I remember, what you are looking at in the mirror is a virtual image and close focus isn't required. It is the same as if you were looking at something 200 feet away without the mirror. :squint
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  12. jigdog

    jigdog Been here awhile

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    There is no noise from this mirror even at 100 mph, nor does it move around even at speed. Even without a fairing. Not being attached to the bike THEY CANT VIBRATE. The only thing I suggest is remove the mirrors from the bike. You will look at them from reflex. Not good because you cant see as well with them as the helmet mirror.
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  13. Pete156

    Pete156 I love to eat!

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    Removing the mirrors from the bike will make it illegal in most states, I would discourage this practice.
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  14. jigdog

    jigdog Been here awhile

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    The cops dont pull me over for driving without a headlight so I doubt they will pull you over for no mirrors. (well...maybe down South) I guess you could paint the mirrors black in that case...
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  15. PizzaHog

    PizzaHog Thought Criminal

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    I tried the Bugeyes last year, because I'm tired of seeing my arms and chest in the mirrors. They proved to be, for me, a complete disaster. The reflected image was a constant source of peripheral vision irritation, and while the "look off" angle wasn't the worst, it was significant, and the focus/refocus changes took too much time. I almost ate a bumper because my attraction kept being attracted to the reflections in the Bugeyes...:eek1

    I guess some folks like 'em; I really didn't.

    YMMV...

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  16. harderkev

    harderkev Slab Sucks!

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    I've been using a pair of bugeyes for the past 3 weeks and I really like them. I decided to try them primarily because I want to be able to see behind me when I'm standing on the pegs (usually to cool-off or stretch my legs while on the highway). I agree that the GS mirrors are horrible for seeing anything more than a few car lengths back, so I was also looking for better vision behind me.

    They looked pretty silly when I first put them on, but they don't seem that strange to me now. They took a little getting used to in the beginning but I found that adjusting them so I turn my head the same amount as I did with the stock mirrors really helped. It doesn't appear they can be mounted to allow you to comfortably see behind without turning your head at all. It's a compromise between how much you look out the corner of your eye and how much you turn your head. This took a litle trial and error for me, but I didn't have to remove and reapply them to find the right balance.

    The biggest adjustment is training yourself to turn your head and look toward the new mirror location. I have had to slightly adapt my forward field of vision because the mirrors block some things I would have previously just shifted my eyes to see. I also sometimes get a little bit of buffeting on one mirror or the other (but hardly ever on both) because of my windscreen. However, they are rock solid and totally clear when I stand on the pegs.

    I removed my stock mirrors and found the bike is less twitchy at highway speeds. I think the mirrors were influencing the handlebars due to wind gusts. The bike also feels more 'houligan' without the stockers.

    I don't have the problem PizzaHog had with being distracted by peripheral images while traveling, and I don't have a focal length problem switching between looking in the mirrors and looking ahead. I will concede that it is impossible to have any peripheral view of the road ahead while using the bugeyes, unlike the stock mirrors. This may have contributed to PizzaHog's near collision. Because of this, I recommend you only take quick glances in the mirrors (as you should!).

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    You were smart to take the handlebar mirrors off and use only the Bugeyes. Less confusion that way. Yes you have to turn your head a little to use them, and they cant be mounted so you can look directly at them and see behind you. But once you get used to the idea of doing a sweep they see a much greater area behind the bike.
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  18. YZman

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    I have a bugeye mirror on my dirt helmet I use for trail riding. I really like it. On a dirtbike bar mounted mirrors are worthless. They vibrate like crazy and only offer you a view of your arm. And if you do get them out far enough to see past your arm you will rip them off on the nearest tree.

    I love the bug eye mirror. And from what I hear they are legal for street use ie you can remove the bike mirrors.

    I trail ride with my 10yr old son and the mirror is great for keeping an eye on him behind me without having to always look back to see if he is still there.

    Even last weekend trailriding with my friends I was able to keep an eye on them as I led them down trails that they hadn't ever been down.

    I recomend everyone trying one. They are pretty cool. While I dont have issues with my Strom mirrors it could be handy on the road as well as the trail.
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  19. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    When you mounted it to your helmet was it to the full face/chin part or to the bill on your visor? Seames to me if it was mounted high it would be less distracting.
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  20. harderkev

    harderkev Slab Sucks!

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    I mounted them to the chin bar of the helmet.

    Since I have a full face street helmet without a visor, the only option for mounting them high would be to attach them to the face shield itself. I briefly considered this but when I thought about the fact that I ride with my face shield open occasionally and barely cracked open a lot of the time, the mirrors would not have a stable mounting surface. If you have a visor on your helmet, that might change things.

    Kev.
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