HELP: Hyperpro shocks – choosing the right one

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Avventuri, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Avventuri

    Avventuri Adventurer

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    Hi! I am ordering a set of Hyperpro 3D shocks & springs for my 1150. The question is – do I need the separate reservoir preload adjuster –*or not?

    I ride without a pillon, no load or moderate load in panniers. 50/50 black top and dirt.

    What says your experience?



    Greetings from Denmark!

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  2. Speedy Stamps

    Speedy Stamps Adventurer

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    Hi - I've had a set of Hyperpro's on for about six months and didn't go for the separate reservoir. I also have the original preload adjuster and it works fine. I only have my wife on the back every now and then and when do crank it up a few turns. The difference in ride is immediately noticeable and after a few thousand Km's they settle in nicely.
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  3. Avventuri

    Avventuri Adventurer

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    Thanks for taking the time to respond.
    Sounds promising – I am looking much forward to a suspension upgrade!

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  4. opposedcyljunkie

    opposedcyljunkie Heavyweight Boxer

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    Same here. My Hyperpros are basic, just with the preload and rebound adjusters for the rear and rebound only for front. I found that after setting the rear shock to where i want it, I never touched it again. If you are sure that your load will never vary significantly, you can actually forego the preload adjuster and save yourself a few hunred bucks.

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  5. MikeWW

    MikeWW Motorcyclist

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    I am debating about the optional pre-load adjuster as well. You say you are using the oem adjuster on your HyperPro's. Was that set up by the HyperPro dealer?
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  6. Speedy Stamps

    Speedy Stamps Adventurer

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    Yes it was. I ordered the shocks and when they arrived in Aust. about six weeks later the local distributor called me. Luckily I was just heading off on a non bike trip so I posted the original rear shock to him and within a week the new shocks had arrived with the original adjuster fitted. Nice job and does the trick perfectly!
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  7. MikeWW

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    Interesting. How did the cost compare to using the HyperPro pre-load adjuster?
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  8. Speedy Stamps

    Speedy Stamps Adventurer

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    Not sure of the price difference of using the HP preload adjuster, but it cost A$100- to have the changeover fitting of the original done. As they do pretty much the same thing it seemed cheap to me!

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  9. MikeWW

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    Thanks for that information. Definitely looks like a viable option.
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  10. erkmania

    erkmania Last of the red hot left pipers

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    If you're already buying 3D's and are opting for the fully adjustable ones then another $200 U.S. is hardly noticeable. The HP adjuster is attractive and works very smoothly. The stocker works great, but always felt cheap to me.

    FYI, I have the fully adjustable 3D's on my bike with ride height adjustment and hydraulic preloader added to the rear. Also, I opted to have the progressive springs replaced with straight rates after I spent some times on the progressives. So far, I like the feel of the straight rates better and the suspension is easier to set up.
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  11. Avventuri

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    Thanks –*sound advice! I´ll be back to post, once I have mounted my new suspension – some kind of Xmas morning that will be!

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  12. Bill-66

    Bill-66 Hencho in Kansas

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    My opinion..after 60K with Hyperpros..

    You want the Hyd Preload adjuster..

    You may or may not NEED the external reservoir, depending on your riding..remeber all it does is give you more oil capacity to facilitate cooling..if you aren't going to be beating up and down rough roads for long periods of time..you won't experience shock fade anyway..it will be a waste of money..

    Here in the desert..they're a must have..bad washboard roads for miles..(Blew seals clean outta a stock shock on the Saline Valley road..40 miles of 10 inch washboard..yes..it sucked)

    If you stick mostly to decent roads..take the money you save on the externals..buy gas..way more fun for the buck..
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  13. Avventuri

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    Thanks for all your advice and opinions..... new springs & shocks (with pre.adjust) now on order! Looking forward to the "new" bike!

    :-D MB
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  14. erkmania

    erkmania Last of the red hot left pipers

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    So...how did you specify your shocks? :ear
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  15. Avventuri

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    HyperPro 3D MX with preload adjust and separate reservoir – progressive springs, matched to weight and riding style.

    Works great on paper – looking much(!) forward to fit and test, before this summer´s first longer trip on dirt.


    MB
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  16. erkmania

    erkmania Last of the red hot left pipers

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    That sounds like how I ordered them minus ride height adjustment. I think you'll like them. Let us know how it goes.

    Now all you have to do is switch out nightly dreams until they arrive. You're going to wear out the shocks before you get them if you keep thinking about them! :evil
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  17. John Nash

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    What made you guys decide on Hyperpro over Wilbers or Ohlins? I have decided to go with Wilbers after talking with my buddy who has 160K miles on his 2005 GS. He said the rear has 90K miles on it with no service or leaks. I read the whole RR report from "tsiklonaut" RTW trip, 3 years 170,000 Km and 70 countrys. He recommended Hyperpro after failures with Ohlins & Wilbers.
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  18. erkmania

    erkmania Last of the red hot left pipers

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    A few reasons, really.

    1) I wanted a non-emulsion shock on the front that was 3-way damping adjustable. I rode another GS with Ohlins and didn't totally like the spikey feel of that emulsion front shock. The bike's owner mentioned the same thing. Sadly, Ohlins doesn't make a shock that met my needs.

    2) They are tough. Another inmate (the same one you mentioned - tsiklonaut) tested them extensively off-road with his wife on an 1150 GS and he couldn't blow them up. The Ohlins failed on him.

    3) I liked the steel body and aluminum damper piston combination; like Ohlins. The damping remains more consistent during temperature changes. This is because of the different thermal expansion rates of steel vs. aluminum. Ohlins does this, too. I think Elka is aluminum/aluminum like Penske so I stayed away from those. I'm not sure about Wilbers, but they only offered an emulsion shock for the front so they were out. The decision to scrap Elka was tough because they come highly rated.

    I would really consider Wilbers, though. Ted Porter (who sells them) is very customer oriented and is well informed, therefore he can probably get you the exact shock for your needs. As an example of his customer service, he and I chatted for an hour once and I hadn't even bought anything from him, yet. Great dude!!!! Of course, I did like it when he told me that I was the most informed consumer regarding suspension. :thumb I did tell Ted that I'd buy the GS911 from him when I get around to it because of his customer service.

    Just so you know, Hyperpro apparently had seal failures years ago, too.

    I don't think you'll go wrong with the Wilbers. Let us know how it goes...

    Aren't you glad you asked? :D
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  19. opposedcyljunkie

    opposedcyljunkie Heavyweight Boxer

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    I've tried Ohlins and Wilbers. The Ohlins are damn too expensive and have a nasty habit of failing early on me. My Wilbers I'm happy with. No complaints.

    Just wanted to try something new so I got the Hyperpros for my 12GS. They can be specified with progressive springs which I've never tried and their shaft diameters are 2mm larger than Wilbers so I'm expecting them to be more robust.
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  20. John Nash

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    I knew Ted Porter years ago when he was BOBS BMW service manager here in Maryland. Very knowledgable and friendly gentleman.I bought my Wilbers from Herman / @ wings and wheels in Florida because of turn around time.I really did consider Hyperpro for the added features they offer.How long have they been around? I have only heard of them recently.In 38 years of riding and many motorbikes,this is my first major performance upgrade for handling.I am taking a 10 day trip down the BRP to Helen Georgia with a good buddy from Albany NY on the 20th this month.Looking forward to putting the GS through some twisties and some offroad to test these wilber shocks out.
    Thanks for the feedback guys.
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