HELP i'm thinking of crossing over to a scooter!!

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by dontnoanybetter, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Toni

    Toni n00b

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    I have heard that the SWings are top heavy. Also read about location of gas tanks on SWings vs Burgs vs TMaxx. Can would appreciate hearing from any & all on this issue, especiallyt from the lady riders. I know men have a different take on top heaviness than us ladies do. Thanks.
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  2. techguy

    techguy Scooter Trash

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    The SWings, Burgers and TMAX are at the top of the scooter evoltionary scle when it comes to physical dimension. the Tmax hardly has a 'step through design" but is typically considered the sportiest or most performance orientated scooter. The SWing is the one I know least about but seems to be the scooter for Honda enthusiasts. The Burger is the hands down winner for storage and touring but that means the butt on the 650 is wider than some people like.

    I think the most important thing about scooters in general, and these especially, is that you can confidently control the scooter while on the seat. This is a combination of being able to control the mass of the bike in a parking lot or at lights and stop signs. The mass of the larger scoots can be a problem for some riders while trying to park or other slow speed/off-bike situations. The mass of the bike goes away once under way. I have heard too many stories of lady riders selling her brand new bike, at a heafty loss, since she cannot straddle the seat and get her feet on the ground.

    If this is your first two wheeled bike, I am not sure I would recommend any of these for a first time rider. I suggest riders learn on a smaller used scoot and then move up the ladder as thier skills set expands.
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  3. rtking

    rtking Been here awhile

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    +1. Had a Ducati ST3 and it was a blast with plenty of torque, but I really couldn't use the power most of the time. And sadly, without the paniers, there was no storage on the bike.

    Bought a Tmax and I've got plenty of power for my needs. (With the J. Costa variator, it's more than quick enough off the line.) The bike handles like a dream through the twisties, and I've got underseat storage for big stuff, and two gloveboxes for little stuff (like mail.) No regrets going with the Tmax.
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  4. Somerled

    Somerled Mountain Warrior

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    Yet another powerful scooter to consider is the SYM HD200. Alot less money than a Silver Wing, Burgman, or Majesty and plenty of power. It simply defies physics. Its 174cc engine easily propels me at 70-75 mph on the highway. Plenty of acceleration ability too. Much lighter than the previously mentioned scoots so likely more managable for that 5' 6" 120 llb woman.
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  5. Toni

    Toni n00b

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    This would not be my first 2-wheeler. Rode BMW1200C's for 7 years; had back surgery; sold the Beemer - which I regret. Want to get back into riding - so I am familiar with the whole concept of 2-wheels.
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  6. techguy

    techguy Scooter Trash

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    Great to hear. I read too many stories about noob riders getting to much bike or a seat that is too tall for them.

    What is your primary use for the bike? Where do you primarily want to ride?
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  7. dynamos2000

    dynamos2000 is boinking your mom

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    Look at the tmax but try and take an extended test ride to make sure you wont miss that sweet engine too much - I'm thoroughly enjoying my max especially after finding a shield that I'm super happy with I had a vfr v4 and I'm happy so its definitely possible :evil
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  8. ScootDawg

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    tell you truth my father who is 65 is bout to sell his full dresser and get a piaggio mp3 400. his bike is getting harder for him to hold up at lights and for a motorcycle dosent get very good gas mileage. i have a bv 250 and i ride w him and he is jealous of my twist and go accelaration while he is constantly up and down shifting (six speeds seem to not have any good gear to crusie in) im flying around him. no matter what u decide goodluck and safe riding SCOOTDAWG
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  9. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    I can't offer any better advise other than what this fine group has already said. I think any input ANYone else would give is just kinda parroting what has already been said. But, I can't help myself and I love the sound of my own voice.

    When steeping down in CC's try to remember, back in the 70's, a big bike had 250 cc's Those honda 550 fours were huge. Don't let the ego control the fun between your legs. :rofl

    I hear a lot being referenced about storage. This is a good issue. My Harley, has no storage whatsoever. Not even a helmet lock. Harley has completely ignored the needs of the rider. Buy our bikes to look cool? WTF?!?!?Are we supposed to rely on a freaking tool bag strapped below the bars for everything we carry. I met one of my harley buddy's on my honda passport. I locked my helmet in the lock, on the side of the bike, just under the seat... he didn't know that any bikes had that and was amazed. He is on his 3rd HD :deal

    The largest scoot i have ever driven is my own elite 250. I can lock and carry a ton of stuff on that bike. You will love this convience.(and that bike has very little storage compared to today's maxi scooters.)

    When people ask why I ride a bike with a 70 cc motor. I tell then the truth.. I ride it for me, the harley I ride for everyone else. The smaller CC bike you ride, the more fun you will have.:1drink
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  10. kpinvt

    kpinvt OLDnSLO

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    Since I really don't have the money or room for more than one bike I very reluctantly traded in my 2003 Honda Silver Wing this past June for a 2009 BMW G650GS. I rode my first Saddle Sore 1000 on the SWing after I got the godawful seat modded to keep my toes from going numb. The bike was a blast around town and very easily beat most bikes and every other vehicle on the road at stop light drag races. It especially pissed off the guys in the tuner cars. The bike had 38K miles on it when I bought it and 60K when I traded it after two years of ownership. The bike experienced no major faults except for the rear drive seal giving out at 52K, it lasted 22K longer than most. It was a slow leak with no damage to the bike. I traded because I was looking for bike that was more comfortable to ride the many dirt roads here in VT. Dirt roads are doable on the SWing just not alot of fun.
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  11. S/W

    S/W Been here awhile

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    I look at other bikes and think what cool bikes they look like.I would like to buy one of those or that one. Plus I have had crotch Rockets to a Harley over the years .
    But, then I think of what I would loose if I gave up my Silverwing; full fairing, auto transmission, long floor boards, decent gas milage, excellent on the highway, or heavy stop and go traffic. I just CAN'T give this up! Some people need crotch Rockets or choppers or baggers or beamers or whatever. The Silverwing does an excellent job for me, and you will have to pry it out of my dead hands. BTW some people have said here that the Burgman is a better touring bike. I don't know whether it is or not, but, I tour extensively on my wing and it does the job with no problems.It's better looking too. Looks sportier.
    S/W
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  12. Tromper

    Tromper Been here awhile

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  13. bikecat

    bikecat Long timer

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    Tomorrow I will be riding from Singapore to Kuantan, Malaysia (one-way 388 km) on a 200cc Gilera VXR Scooter, with a Silverwing and a T-Max in tow .... will post a ride report when I am back.

    Cheers
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  14. conchscooter

    conchscooter Long timer

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    I like the T-Max a lot, but when I compare price and features with the Honda Deauville, newly released in the US as the NT700 I wonder which way I would go....The T-Max is an automatic and something of a step through. The Deauville/NT700 is a fully functional sport touring bike in a manageable package.
    Just thought I would mention it for a point of debate.
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  15. bikecat

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    Back from my ride. Total distance was about near 800 km, about 380 or so in a day. No difficulty, no breakdowns.

    Interestingly I was joined by 2 T-Maxes, the 2009 and 2008 versions. The T-Maxes were of course much more competent than my 200 cc machine. They can overtake with ease and I reckon is an excellent touring tool.

    Cheers
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  16. Catskill

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  17. techguy

    techguy Scooter Trash

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    CAtskill,

    People never look at the BV, but they are great touring potential bikes and they are one of the very few scooters have have hard panniers ready...off the shelf...today.
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  18. Catskill

    Catskill tree hugger

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    It's a very low maintenance, high powered, great handling bike. Even if you don't buy mine I really can't say enough good things about it. I just have too many bikes and it's the one that has the most dust on it.
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