help me buy a jeep

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  1. farmerstu

    farmerstu Been here awhile

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    looking to buy a wrangler soon. would appreciate tips, price ranges , any other info to help me locate and buy the right one.
    my criteria:
    1. no rust, none , nada
    2. no salvage title
    3.must be 2 door tj or yj. going in a enclosed trailer with 2 motorcycles. just barely enough room
    4 can be located anywhere in a line from fargo n.d. to Albuquerque n.m.
    5 unmolested, don't want someones toy, or hopped up smallblock or a rock crawler.

    use will be as a run around rig when camping and traveling and some light trail duty. (did the shaffer trail this june with a 84 f250, that is about the max trail i envision us on)
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  2. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer

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    A tj is going to ride nicer than a yj, coil spring vs leaf.

    I'd be lookin for the best example of a tj that I could afford.

    You gotta figure, 6cyl or 4cyl? manual or automatic? hard top?
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  3. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    Check the frame. TJ's inside the frame rails by the skid plate. YJ's at or behind the very rearward leaf spring shackle.

    2.5 is a gutless turd. 4.0 is unbreakable. AX-15 is fine. NP231 could use a regear imo. Some 4.0 YJ's had 3.09 gearing and its just...awful.

    Dana 35 is a joke of an axle if you're doing type of wheeling. And forget locking the rear. The D35 can't handle it. Its a c-clip axle that breaks very easily. And when it does, you're strapping a tree branch across the tire, on the trail from keeping the axle from sliding out of the tube. Ford 8.8 and a disc swap is fairly easy if you can operate a wrench and welder.
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  4. farmerstu

    farmerstu Been here awhile

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    sorry, here's more info
    6 cyl. for sure. prefer a manual trans.
    prefer a hardtop with a bikini top but soft top will be ok ( plan on being topless most of the time,)
    currently looking at a 05 with a 6cyl and 6 speed, 135000 miles appears real clean , in ok,craiglist. 11,000. too much?
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  5. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    Nearly 13 years old with 135k for $11,000.

    Holy crap, I've been out of the loop for awhile. I know they always seem to hold their value, but is that what they're going for now?
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  6. WVhillbilly

    WVhillbilly Long timer

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    Do tell :lol3
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  7. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    Actually it was a 3.07 if memory serves, and it could be found in TJ sport 6 cylinders as well.
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  8. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    Eh. Well. I've had 4.0's with 800k on them pull into the shop. Of the two dozen or so types of motors we had on the lift, one in a few hundred were a 4.0 with an issue.
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  9. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    I think you're right; 3.07. Been awhile. :hmmmmm
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    WVhillbilly Long timer

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    That one had 200K miles on it.
    I wouldn't bother with a 4 cylinder in a Jeep, they are horrible.
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  11. ShadyRascal

    ShadyRascal Master of None

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    The 4 cylinder must be bad, they are always far cheaper than the 4.0's.

    Clean TJs bring a lot of money these days.
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  12. WVhillbilly

    WVhillbilly Long timer

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    A 4 cylinder has to run pretty hard to maintain highway speed.
    If you buy one and plan to swap in a 4.0 that's fine.
    They can be found cheaper, and usually in better shape. Frame rust is an issue, look at it closely.
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  13. farmerstu

    farmerstu Been here awhile

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    thanks for the info. being on the lookout for 3.07 is the kind of info i'm looking for. i own a auto repair shop so am familiar with the wrangler but don't know all the inside tips. (what year had certain problems, what option package to look for or avoid. etc.)
    very familiar with the rust issue .
    I am not buying a hobby. not going to be swapping in different rear ends or motors.
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    WVhillbilly Long timer

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    Or just buy an XJ (Cherokee) and have the same thing for thousands of dollars less.
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  15. groop

    groop So much to ponder

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    I have a 99 TJ with the inline 6 and it would be fine for towing the bike trailer you mention. The engines are great but prone to a few things to look for: exhaust manifold cracks and head warpage.
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  16. acesandeights

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    TJs had 3.07, 3.55, 3.73 and 4.10/4.11. Any ratio will work for an around camp rig. As soon as you put it in 4-low it won't make a huge difference, except on the more extreme trails. Any TJ will do what you're describing, but if you want to make it much more capable, putting TrueTrac limited slips front and rear with 4.10/4.11 gearing will make it an unstoppable camp rig. You'll want even deeper gearing for rock crawling, but 95% of the trails will be a cake-walk if set up with 4.10/4.11 and LSD front and rear.
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    jon_l Long timer

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    The way I read his post, the Jeep is going inside the trailer.
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  18. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    Mine originally had 3.07s and it couldn't get out of its own way. It was terrible. I swapped in axles from a 2.5 because they have the 4.10s. Best thing I did with that particular rig.

    Had one of these too. I've owned a lot of vehicles in my life. My XJ was easily my top three. Gas mileage was a bit meh, but that rig was awesome. Fit five people and camping gear just fine. Plenty of power. Lots of aftermarket. Towed the 14' aluminum boat just fine. With the 31" trXus tires it was immune to snow. I got it stuck once with snow to the door handles. I even fabbed the doors up so they could be removed. Only issue was the rockers were rotted out. Cut them out and welded in some 2x3.

    Loved that rig. Traded it for a tow rig.
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  19. farmerstu

    farmerstu Been here awhile

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    please see my original post #3 must be tj or jy to fit in my trailer. also want topless. imo a Cherokee (would not fit in my trailer) has all the negatives a wranger has and none of the positive.
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  20. farmerstu

    farmerstu Been here awhile

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    don't think i want 3.07s as it will get a bit oversize tires at some point.my hope is to buy the right package, so i don't have to swap stuff.
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