HELP - Oregon Search & Rescue is looking for my brother - need your HELP!!!!!

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by MISSINGmedfordBIKER, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. rootsy

    rootsy Been here awhile

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    so sorry to hear about this tradgey. another reason to hug your people and tell them often how much you love them. healing and light for James' friends and family.
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  2. Southest US Thumper

    Southest US Thumper Extreme n00b

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    I like it too. We can also do one on the Big Island, there are a couple of places where he and I rode that are well enough off the beaten path, we can easily find a spot on Mauna Kea's R-1 or Keanakolu / Mana Rd.
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  3. Capo Rick

    Capo Rick Please understand...

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  4. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    Rip...
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  5. E-Bum

    E-Bum Been here awhile

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    Man, sad news. Best wishes to the family.
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  6. TT RDHS

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    Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and loved ones.
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  7. saltj

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    When I first saw the reports of Jim missing, I wondered what I could do to help. It sounds like the official search was fairly extensive, but as Jim's brother initially asked, our riding community could play a helpful role in such situations, if we're organized to do so. Perhaps this is already established and I'm simply ignorant of it; if not, I recommend that those more knowledgeable than I suggest steps on we can be better organized to response to such reports/requests, as they'll undoubtedly happen again. I know I'd rather have been out helping look for him this weekend than doing anything else (and especially just taking a 'pleasure ride' as I did this weekend).

    Ideas/insights?

    Jim
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  8. mexipike

    mexipike Been here awhile

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    +1 on this.

    I don't have any ideas just yet on how to do it but I think it's a great idea.
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  9. oremike

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    I'm glad I could help
    just wish the outcome was better.I told the sheriff about shoestring and rock creek Rdr S.when tetheri we

    ng called me later he told me Jim was found of of big river rd.
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  10. _cy_

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    IMHO the informal system of simply posting a request for help works quite well. Adv with 287k members has quite the reach.

    area of coverage worldwide is simply too large to predict who is close enough to help. for instance I'm in Tulsa, OK and would be useless for an Oregon search. only folks with time, closeby and local knowledge would be much help.

    typically there are existing search & rescue groups nearby remote areas that generate a steady number of calls.

    if one follows Adv, there's been a number of amazing rescues cobbled together in short order. sadly this one didn't end up with happy endings .. RIP..
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  11. XR4EVER

    XR4EVER 919 excuses to ride!

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    When I go out riding alone, I travel with a SPOT unit with the tracking option on. I always make sure to forward the link to the tracking map to my wife. (I find it hard to believe I would ever be in enough pain or in a near-death situation to overcome the fears of the rescue bills of an international recovery service coming to find me if I hit the SOS button,) So my wife has instructions for if/when I were ever forced to use the Help button, to come to this forum to post my planned trip, my last known coordinates and a link to my tracking map. I have as much (if not more) faith in this community as I do in the local search and rescue teams. The way everyone here comes together in the face of a tragedy is reassuring and heartwarming.
    On the flip side, if a rider was lost in an area that I am familiar with, I would be out there as soon as the call went out, and I wouldn't give up until after the search was called off. I have had enough close calls to scare myself into being a different type of rider. The turns I used to fly into with reckless abandon, I now go no faster than my stopping distance allows. But even a cautious rider isn't immune from accidents.

    Ride on those dusty trails in the great beyond, rider. Best wishes to friends and family.
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  12. Southest US Thumper

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    Concur whole heartedly, just the fact that our community is aware is a benefit. You don't have to be there but you may know somebody passing through that you can shout out to, you never know, maybe somebody saw/noticed a rider and can provide a shred of information that can be evaluated. Maybe you exchanged emails and know of the habits the rider has, it all can be useful once digested by the experts. Every SAR is different and everything learned feeds into new techniques and procedures. Do Not Under Estimate what you know about the rider or the area, the folks looking may not have that knowledge of either.

    For me, the fact that a Loved One knows that we will do what we can from the removed locations that we represent is comforting enough.

    Thank you to all that viewed this thread and were concious of this event.

    RIP Jimbo
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  13. maunakea

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    Here's what I have learned about the accident.
    First, death was almost certainly instantaneous from the impact of the bike (fully loaded for touring) falling on Jim, pinning him on the bed on an intermittent creek, possible Ewing Creek, on London Rd., south of Cottage Grove Lake.

    The reported accident location was
    [FONT=&quot]Lat 43.578483[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Long 122.979256[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]El. 1300[/FONT]
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    A friend who visited the accident site with LEOs reports the site is on London Rd., running alongside a creek, southbound, where a culvert runs under London Rd. and protrudes about 18" creekside, allowing effluent water from the W. side of London Rd to run into the creek on the E. side. There are skid marks at the site that cross from RH to LH side of the road, then a track across 4' to 6' of shoulder toward the protruding culvert. A small gully connects the culvert outlet to the creek. Evidently, the bike, sliding off London Rd., struck the culvert, inverting rider and bike into a trajectory in which the bike landed on top of Jim. The impact area is obscured by trees when seen from the road.

    There is now a small, wooden cross at the accident site that reads "Don't let the circle be broken until we meet at the other shore. Aloha Jim."
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  14. peterman

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    thank you.
    gives some closure.:cry
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  15. SmokeBike

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    Myself and a couple of other guys were doing an overnight in that very area. Very sad news.... the worst.

    I would like to organize some sort of group - official or other wise as an adjunct to the various SAR units. Any thoughts on this guys ?
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  16. bdcorrigan

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    Sounds like a good idea. We have Portland Mountain Rescue, Pacific Northwest Search & Rescue, K9 Search & Rescue among others. What about an ADVsearch & Rescue?
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  17. MikeinEugene

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    Seems to me like it ought to be coordinated with whatever gets used officially for S&R. Lane County? No idea, but being able to let whomever is actually coordinating an official crew where we've searched seems like a good idea to me.
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  18. Dell_dude

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    I'd volunteer for something like that.
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  19. soyanarchisto

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    I would as well, with the caveat that it's important that we recognize we are there to help and NOT get in the way.
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  20. oremike

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    I thought being like minded and family like in organization, we all were ADV search and rescue.
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