HELP - Oregon Search & Rescue is looking for my brother - need your HELP!!!!!

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by MISSINGmedfordBIKER, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. maunakea

    maunakea Adventurer

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    I think the key to an ADV SAR is the regional fora, with "districts" (for want of a better word), within each regional forum. There could be district captains (again, for want of a better word).... and probably multi-county "leads". Some counties in the West are BIG. The search pattern concept would be similar to Civil Air Patrol. Where it gets ADV-specific is if someone is missing on a single-track route.

    On a different topic... I'm buying a Spot. I've been doing solo rides too long not to have one.
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  2. oldmonkeybut

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    Great idea! Turn it on before you leave home and don't turn it off until you return. The batteries in mine last a looong time. I change them once a year, just because. Also do not attach the unit to your bike. Attach it to your person in a location you are most likely to be able to reach if you are injured.
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  3. Chip Seal

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  4. Ladukebob

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    I need to upgrade my first gen Spot. If its not facing straight up than the signal struggles to be received. I don't think those first gen have the output power that the current model does. So this forces me to Ram mount it on the bike. Not the best idea I agree, but it's better than nothing and since I use the tracking feature I figure it would narrow the search down to a few miles.

    Never leave home without it.
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  5. XR4EVER

    XR4EVER 919 excuses to ride!

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    Here is where I keep mine. I have a small backpack strapped and riveted to my chest protector, and the SPOT is
    hooked and strapped to the top of it. I memorized the button pattern so I can reach back and hit the buttons sight-unseen
    in an emergency.

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  6. ZEmann

    ZEmann want to be riding

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    I have been looking into them
    the new ones ( gen 3 ) are apparently motion activated ?

    maybe something good can come from this bad turn of events
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  7. Craig McCurdy

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    I started in Search and Rescue in 1978 and I'm a member of the Crag Rats here in Hood River. Shit, I just added that up, 34 years! :huh Just trying to keep my Oregon SAR card for the Crag Rats current is turning into a full time job.

    So, I think the first thing you should find out is just how many riders on ADV in the state of Oregon hold SAR cards that have been issued by one of the Oregon county Sheriffs.

    Would be kind of interesting to know how many police, fire or SAR people we have on this site form OR, WA & ID

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  8. oremike

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    You know, not one friend, family member or ADV rider has said thank you or even acknowledged that I'm the one that gave the Sheriff the heads up about Jim's possible location. The only one to say thank you was the Sheriff. It's ok, and I'd do exactly the same again because that's who I am. I take it as a sad sign of the state of the society we live in. One more reason to spend my time out in the real world and not around people so much.
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  9. saltj

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    Also 'glad' to know some details, esp. the 'instantaneous' part; hard to think of someone lying there injured and stuck and waiting...

    I do hope there is some kind of memorial event for fellow riders; if not, I'm sure many of us will make our own trips there...

    As the one suggesting we set up some kind of system to help out in such circumstances, I'm glad to see the ideas for how best to do so; as expected they are better and more informed than mine. One thing that this site could do is to set up 'forums' or perhaps another function focusing on such alerts, that are regionally specific, to which anyone inclined can subscribe and set up an RSS function (I presume that's possible with this site; sorry for not checking in advance). I'm not suggesting we try to duplicate a true search and rescue group, but in the spirit of Jim's brother's request to this community, I do think that we might have something to offer the actual searchers (e.g. volunteering to join search crews, knowledge about popular roads riders might be on, etc).

    And I too am now shopping for a beacon, although I'm not limiting myself to Spot. Came across a nice review of them here; any thoughts on this are welcome although I suspect that really should be in a different post:

    http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Personal-Locator-Beacon-Reviews

    Best to all, and rest in peace Jim
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  10. Scott_PDX

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    Mike, I wouldn't get all bent outta shape on that. I didn't realize you were so instrumental in finding the guy. You post on it was a little bit gibberish, and wasn't clear to me that you were so key.

    It was great to see the large number of posts go out and the actions taken by all. I'm no SAR expert, but I'm guessing those guys don't do it for the public aknowedgement as much as the fact that they'd want SAR to be looking for them and their loved ones as well.

    Regardless, Thank you Mike, and whoever else was acting on the original request, for helping in this emergency, and keep it up in the future please.
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  11. ZEmann

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    I really can't believe it even was mentioned
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  12. oremike

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    Mike, I wouldn't get all bent outta shape on that. I didn't realize you were so instrumental in finding the guy. You post on it was a little bit gibberish, and wasn't clear to me that you were so key

    Yeah I get that now, I posted that from my phone home sick with Bronchitis, but before I saw my Dr for the good drugs. Been home for a few days now loaded on Codine with nothing to do but try not to cough up a lung and check the interwebs. Might have been feeling a tad sorry for myself and I apologize for that.

    And now for the rest of the story, I get the OSP news alerts and Saturday evening posted the one about Jim being missing. Sunday morning I was re-reading the alert and picked out a couple details, Judgeing from Jim's gear and bike I figured he was an adventurist type of rider heading from north to south in Oregon and had a couple days to do it in. The other thing I picked up on was they said they got a cell phone ping south and maybe east of Cottage Grove. There are a few N/S routes in the area so I picked two paved goat trails as the most likely to be chosen by someone out for the adventure Shoestring and Rock Cr Rd. Much further East and the Mountains get too tall for any service too far to the west and you in the I-5 corridor coverage. I called a couple of the numbers listed for SAR in both Douglas and Lane Co's because both routes are in the transition zone between them. All I got was voice mails so left my best guesses there. I wanted to talk to a real person so called Lane Co Dispatch and told her about my best guess, and said London and Big River rd's would be a connector between the two, I could tell they hadn't thought of that and in re-reading the alert were looking possibly too far East. The rest as they say is history, though I will add that I did get a message from the Sheriff thanking me for my tip and saying it was what they needed to find Jim.
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  13. maunakea

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    I did post a general thank you from Marilyn and family (in one of the three threads that Marilyn started), but I was unaware of the further details. All Marilyn and I knew from the Sheriff's Dept. was "a rider gave the Sheriff a tip" that led to the discovery. So, heartfelt thanks, Mike. Finding Jim, and getting the med. examiner's report that death would have been instantaneous, lifted an immense burden that had hung over the family (and the "Jim down" threads). Mahalo nui loa.
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  14. oremike

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    Thank you for that,

    Hafa dai!
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  15. glitch_oz

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    OMG!!!

    This is terrible!
    Only just heard about it an hour ago, had no idea what'd happened.:cry:cry

    Here he is in THAT jacket in March this year, riding the South Island of New Zealand together with his Aussie mates.
    RIP mate...you'll ALWAYS be part of your friends DownUnder.

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    There's so much to be said...for now there are only tears.

    Many, many thanks to who ever found Jimbo....I've still gotta read the threads.
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  16. MISSINGmedfordBIKER

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    I am Jim's sister . . . I am so sorry -- I didn't know anything about your contact w/the Sheriff. They informed me that they received numerous tips. I'm so sorry . . . I have been overwhelmed and not even able to get online until tonite. Plz feel free to contact me directly 310.755.4571 Marilyn
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