heres how to get a Europe Green card (insurance)

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  1. rtwdoug

    rtwdoug prominent underachiever

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    thru motocamp bulgaria, cost is as follows

    60 euros 1 month
    100 euros 2 months
    140 euros 3 months


    We've been doing this for several years, and will scan a copy and email it to you, then we send the original thru the post, to anywhere you want it

    email motocampbg@yahoo.com
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    MichaelJ Long timer

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    So what you're saying is that I'm buying a short term insurance policy that includes issuance of a Green Card to show that I have coverage.

    For us, it's the functional equivalent. EU citizens get one as an adjunct to their normal insurance.
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  4. MichaelJ

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    Doug, what are the coverage levels for their insurance?
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  5. petertakov

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    That is exactly right. I'm a lawyer, sorry - professional deformation :-))
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    Michael, I cant remember, but email Ivo or Polly at motocampbg@yahoo.com, and they can fill you in on the details.
    Im in the US right now

    Doug
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    thanks for the update, Doug, for some reason i thought you had stopped issuing greencard ins
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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
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    Dooby,

    what is the cost for 45 days? and what are the limits covered? Harley 2017 Road Glide

    thanks

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  10. Otherworld

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    The GC from Motocamp Bulgaria is liability only? What about comprehensive/collision? Any recommendations on obtaining coverage for these? If I require 4 or 5 months coverage, how are months 4 and/or 5 calculated, using the 1 or 2 month rates?
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    Thanks for posting this. Claryfing exactly what it is. I like it when people who - actually & factually - know what they are talking about and put the info out there for others to learn.

    It helps a lot. Now if people choose to use middlmen for convenience or planning purposes that's their prerogative but it helps to know that there are other ways to obtain the necessary documents.

    Thanks dude!
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    I know this is old but i wanted to reply in case someone else is googling for info regarding morocco.

    It has changed now, it used to be they would only sell a minimum of 3 months for about 850 moroccan dirhams ( about $90 or €85) full coverage. Full coverage there meant lawyer defense + expert witness.
    That's the extent to which they go.

    Now they do 1 month for 470 MAD ($45 / €43 ) agent asked me if i wanted to add fire coverage for an additional $2 i was like yeah sure...what the hell. They asked about value of my bike, so i assume you pay $1 to $2 more or less depending on value of your bike. I cant remember whether they offered theft coverage.

    Bottom line you get a month of liability, lawyer, expert witness and fire for $50. if someone is interested I can scan the policy and send it. The company was AXA, others offer similar deals.

    important point, I did ask for including towing in case of breakdown. They did not offer it. You should still ask as things change. I know it's offered for free for car insurance policy. I remember the agent saying something like the amount I'm paying is so low that it doesnt make financial sense to them. But still it wouldnt hurt to ask. It's good to have towing if you can get it.

    How I know? My bike wouldnt start and had it towed for about $120 to a shop 190 miles away. Still not bad. Happy to provide phone numbers to people with pick up trucks there who can tow you.
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    basic green card is just liability insurance, required to operate a vehicle in europe.
    I dont know of any companies in europe that sell comprehensive/full coverage insurance to foreigners. Im not saying they dont, Ive just never looked into it.
    And yes, you CAN buy a green card when entering the EU at a land border. (from turkey into BG, or Morocco into spain, ukraine into romania, etc)
    But, as I have shipped a few bikes by air into europe, there was no way I found to be able to buy insurance at the airport, and had to sort it out with a broker before hand.
    Yes, if you have an EU registered bike, insurance is cheaper, but alot of places wont sell it to a foreigner that owns an eu registered bike, even tho its the EU, theres alot of countries & alot of insurance companies, and they all have different rules.

    We have helped alot of people sort out a green card, its just one less thing to have to worry about on your trip.

    Doug
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    I am sorry but this is simply not true. The EU regulations are pretty tight, apply directly in each EU country and are enforceable EU wide. The insurance companies DO comply strictly if they want to keep their licence.

    Also, you should be well aware that most insurance policies are being sold through insurance brokers who represent at least 90% of the insurance companies at once, meaning that even if there were an insurance co. that does not provide certain type insurance, there will be 20 others who do and are represented by the same agent.

    I don't mind anyone providing service at a premium, but please don't call that "help" or base it on vague, false or misleading claims.

    Peter
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    ok, I apologize, you are obviously an expert on european insurance for foreigners.
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    You are in fact absolutely right this time - I am a lawyer. Would you like me to go through the legal details of the "help" you are providing to the members of this forum and post some comments? All I have to do is ask someone here to send me a copy of the insurance policy he paid for and go from there. I suppose then you will have plenty of opportunities to exercise your sarcasm again :-)
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    petertakov....two years ago I bought a bike in Ireland, registered the bike in Ireland, tagged the bike in Ireland with an Irish address; my own address. Not being a citizen of Ireland I could not buy basic liability insurance in Ireland. Hence could not legally ride my own property in Ireland. No Irish company would sell me insurance at that time.

    Saving grace was with Doug and Polly and their company which provides insurance to us tourist in a EU country. My issued policy covered my motorcycle and me legally. Last email address I used was motocampbg@yahoo.com. Contact them and get a quote.
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    I posted this on HUBB but for those who dont visit much over there.

    +1 for Ivo and crew at Motosapiens (www.motosapiens.org) in Bulgaria for EU Green Card Insurance. I got it for my Australian registered R1200GSA this week.

    Excellent service, prompt detailed responses to all my questions and half the price of others offering same insurance. 60 Euro for 1 month.

    Paid on a Wednesday, received scanned copy on Sunday and received paper copy on the Monday to my house in Germany.

    Thanks again Ivo!
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    What were the coverage limits?

    Enquiring minds and all that.
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    Copied direct from the green card:

    In each country visited, the Bureau of that country guarantees, in respect of the use of the vehicle referred to herein, the insurance cover in accordance with the laws relating to compulsory insurance in that country.

    Ivo wrote to me:

    This is for Bulgaria:

    For non-pecuniary and pecuniary damage as a result of physical injury or death: BGN 2,000,000 for each occurrence in one injured party and BGN 10,000,000 for each occurrence of two or more injured parties; For damage to property (property) - BGN 2,000,000 for each event.

    For the territory of the other Member States of the European Union or for the countries belonging to the European Economic Area, the sums insured are in accordance with local laws.

    ....

    So it seems what ever the limit for 3rd party Green Card Insurance is for the country you have an accident in, this is the limit you get. It also says on the card you can get more info from www.cobx.org
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