Hi Viz or Regular color on jacket?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by guiri, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    Can't argue with lights for sure. I'm still wearing Hi Via and white. I want every advantage I can get even if it is perceived.
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  2. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    THINKING it's better for you is not a bad thing either.

    Auxiliary lights ARE coming up and the bike I got has some kind of lights
    on the luggage which will most likely be on all the time
    so that should be good.

    How dirty does the hi viz get on regular roads? Exhaust, dust and what not?
    The last thing I need is something getting filthy and really showing up
    AND being hard to clean.
    Not only am I lazy and a procrastinating mofo, if it's hard to clean, it probably
    won't even happen.

    For a clean look, I would assume a grey or brown would be the best color?
    My bike is grey or silver by the way. Helmet is black and although black is
    slimming, I don't there's a black out there that'll make ME look slim and I'm not
    all that big on black stuff anyway.
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  3. JimVonBaden

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    Road grime and time.

    Jim :brow
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  4. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    Damn, that's pretty crummy looking.

    So, how do you clean it and how long did it take to get that dirty
    and is this on regular paved roads?

    Defeats the hell outta the Hi Viz when it's like that, huh?
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  5. JimVonBaden

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    Not mine, nor riding gear, but I have seen some similar. It can be partly cleaned, but over time they look similar.

    Jim :brow
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  6. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    Boo, boo, that sucks.

    So, black, grey or brown if I don't want to wash or clean'em.

    Are these even washable or do they lose their waterproof properties?
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  7. abnslr

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    Looks like the old-school nomex firefighters' turnout gear -- after a few fires...

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  8. p0diabl0

    p0diabl0 Been here awhile

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    I got a Tourmaster Transition 2 this black friday from cycle gear and have ran it through the rain a couple of times now - no issues. It's main thing is having vent scoops which open via zippers, but the zippers are protected when closed. Here's hoping it stays waterproof.
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  9. NoVa Rider

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    I'm a hi-viz fan, and wear a yellow helmet. But truth be told, the helmet is the highest point on the bike, so from a visibility perspective, that's what I'm concerned with most. And more important than that, especially for night riding, are reflective panels on the suit, and I use some red reflective tape on the helmet. Really helps to be seen at night. :clap
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  10. acejones

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    I found the easiest way to clean this stuff is take it in the shower with a nylon brush and detergeant of choice. Unless you're a pig, it doesn't get that dirty.
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  11. randyo

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    first thing ya do is when you get it new, treat it with Scotchguard, that way dirt won't stick as deeply

    I wash mine in my jacquzzi, fill it up with lukewarm water, that the armor out of my gear, toss it all in , I put an oz of HE launtry detergent in and turn the jets on, let it run for a half hour or until the suds start overflowing on the floor :huh, then take the gear out and hang it in the shower where I rinse off withe hand held showerhead

    my Kilmanjaro is 5 years old about 50,000 miles, still fairly clean, been washed twice

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    my Aerostitch, I never Scotchguarded first and it will never be this clean again
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  12. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    Good advice, thanks.

    My choice, IF I get a jacket (price and sizing issues) MAY also depend on what I can find
    that FITS me.
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  13. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    Well, I just spoke to the guy that I'm buying the bike from and although I knew what he had on it, wasn't sure how it was setup.

    Anyway, he's got LED lights on the luggage and they ARE on all the time. The helmet I'm getting (IF it's comfortable for me) has an LED light in the back and I WILL have plenty of lights in the front so I guess Hi Viz or not, I'm good to go on the visibility thing meaning that I now have a few more buying options.

    Sweet!
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  14. navi

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    Read it somewhere, it has something to do about not being part of the background view.

    All things moving at the same speed, in the same direction become part of the background visually. Part of the reason that people tend to say that they looked but didn't see the motorcycle, it just blended with the background and being smaller than the vehicles around it simply disappeared.

    So ... if you are moving at a different angle, or rate of speed from ( I like 5-10k faster than the flow ) you have a better chance of being seen. Ever look at something in wide view and you only noticed the animal when it moved... kinda the same thing

    Someone is going to have a more detailed / better explanation.. But that's my 2
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  16. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    No need, I got it and it makes sense. Also, someone else responded to it earlier but it's like leaving yourself messages on the fridge or something.

    If they're there too long or you put too many, you wind up not seeing them or ignoring them.

    My memory sucks so I send myself emails as reminders and guess what, I do it so often that finally I ignore or forget half of them.
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  17. damurph

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    I have gone through a couple of Toumaster Transition Hi Viz coats and they worked well for a while. Faded and dirty but i washed them a couple of times. Since i started using a HiViz helmet i find i get cut off less but there is no substitute for keeping your eyes open.
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  18. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    Yep, I learned that years ago when reading bike magazines...
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  19. DaveStockwell

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    Balance safety and what you like. Hi-Viz will be safer but only if you are willing to wear it. Some folks just can't bring themselves to do so. Personally I don't have Hi-Viz in my jacket but I do have an extremely Hi-Viz reflective vest I wear when commuting or riding in busy traffic.

    The brighter the better.
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  20. Boats313

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    I have the Transition 3, almost the same jacket. To be fair I have been in a couple of storms that I wouldn't go out in again, mostly high winds on bridges combined with a heavy rain.
    The first time the water came in the main zipper, maybe I didn't have the flap over the right way and maybe some came in the neck, but I was wet from neck to nuts right down the middle and a little on the back.

    The next time it came in the main zipper and the shoulder/arm vents. On days where the rain isn't as bad it does good. I used a neck gaiter a few times which seemed to keep the water out of the neck.

    As far as the hi-vis, I have watched people all of a sudden notice me as they try to switch lanes into me or pull out in front of me. Who knows if a regular color would have had the same results, "Loud colors save lives".
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