HID Conversion on a 12GS (pictorial)

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by JimVonBaden, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. sweptwingnut

    sweptwingnut The Nut

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    +1 Was about to post the same question re: slim ballasts before making my purchase.
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  2. GB

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    I got an HID kit from: www.xenonrider.com and he offers you the slim line ballast, which would be ideal in a tight fit like this.

    Jim, I don't see any wires on your kit that have a relay and hook up to the battery, is that how your kit was? :ear I guess the ones I used are older ones and have a relay and an inline fuse and hook up to the battery. I just ordered a slimline kit from the above source and will be one of my winter projects. :thumb
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  3. supaparty

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    Wow...this place is more than twice the price - $90 delivered for a dual HID kit vs. $199+delivery for the kit from Xenonrider. What's the difference other than the option to upgrade to a slim ballast?
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  4. JimVonBaden

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    Yeah, I installed a kit with the slim ballasts on a friend's bike, and it is the way to go, if you don't mind the cost.

    The new kits like mine and my friend's kits, do not need any additional wiring. You simply unplug the stock bulb, plug the HID kit to the stock plug, and you have light! No need for any more wiring, tank removal, or relays. In fact, though my pics show it, you don't even need to remove the beak or instrument pannel. I just did it because I filmed it for my upcomming Accessories DVD!

    Here is the slim one:

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    Next to my fat one.

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    Jim :brow
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  5. GB

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    I like it, I guess my old kits have the complete wiring harness and when I removed the relay and wired it off the bike's harness, it worked briefly then went out. When I get the new kit, I hope it like this one, plug and play. I went for the slim ballast. :thumb
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  6. Grad

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    Are there any 2 bulb, slim ballast kits available that are pretty cheap?
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  7. sweptwingnut

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    This is the cheapest of the slim ballasts that I have found so far. http://www.cqlight.ca/product_info.php?products_id=68

    Price includes shipping. That makes it about 65-70 bucks more than JVB's latest install but you will still need to find a place to mount the igniters.
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  8. sweptwingnut

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    This one will cost you 230.00 plus shipping...:huh But a lot of people here are happy with this vendor and that goes a long way.
    http://www.xenonrider.com/products/h7_xenon_hid_kits.shtml
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  9. sweptwingnut

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    Here is a question for those that have dealt with the VVM, Xenon, and CQ kits. I am guessing no one makes what I am thinking about but with all the knowledge here my interest is why is it not possible to plug an extension into the cable from the ballast? Maybe someone like http://www.easternbeaver.com can build an extension that will ultimately allow you more mounting options for the ballasts and/or igniters.

    Just a thought. :dunno
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  10. Peka

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    Could be a problem with voltage drop over a longer cable :dunno
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  11. mqo233

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    Jim did you use the power wires for power to the ballast, or did you run the wires and turn a relay on, I am missing that part of the discussion, as well as how did it affect the Can system. Thanks for all your work,

    James
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  12. Xeraux

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    He answered this earlier in the thread.
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  13. Clayton Bigsby

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    Jim,

    Do you feel the HID conversion would be a decent substitute for additional running lights?

    My lighting is stock, and as you know it's borderline unsafe at night.

    I would rather convert to HID than hang aftermarket lights from the front of my bike.

    Is this a decent idea?
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  14. JimVonBaden

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    I know a couple people who run no additional lighting other than the HIDs. They seem to think it is OK.

    When I first got my 12GS I thought the lighting was great comparred to my 1100GS, that is, until I added Motolights and then Hella FF50s. Admittedly I do not run my FF5s very often, so Motolights and stock low beam is usually all I have.

    I think the HIDs really make a significant difference, and would probably be fine alone, but each person has a different level of need and a different comfort zone.

    Jim :brow
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  15. Xeraux

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    I agree.

    They're probably bright enough on their own, but I like the way my PIAA 1100x lights "fill in" the space beneath the HID low beam.
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  16. pedalmike

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    Thanks, JVB. Good post. Re: High beam HID, everything I've read indicates that the useful life of xenon HIDs are shortened by turning them on and off, not by extended run times.

    At least where I live, my high beam use is all intermittent, rarely lasting more than 60 seconds or so at a clip. Wouldn't that make HID ill-advised for motorcycle high beam use?

    In many cars, they get around this by using bi-xenon reflector setups, where the bulb stays lit, and the reflector moves into low beam or high beam position. Just my .02.

    Mike
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  17. NBeener

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    In a burnout situation, couldn't the HID's bulb be replaced, though, just like a standard halogen?

    As in ...

    http://www.cqlight.ca/index.php?cPath=22_76&osCsid=add73890b9f48107e8203a8a869dcfc4

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    (note: okay, $35, but ....)
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  18. Xeraux

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  19. Duster929

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    Ok, I'm joining the club. Just ordered the single light with ultra-slim ballast from CQLights.... !

    --- D
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  20. JimVonBaden

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    Quote:
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    In a burnout situation, couldn't the HID's bulb be replaced, though, just like a standard halogen?

    As in ...

    http://www.cqlight.ca/index.php?cPat...203a8a869dcfc4


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    Yes, or in a pinch, just put in an H7 bulb and plug it back in as stock.

    Jim :brow
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