HID Conversion on a 12GS (pictorial)

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  1. (sp?)

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    Nice job Jim:thumb

    I've added a link to this thread in the LOOK HERE FIRST thread.

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  2. PackRat

    PackRat Huey Guns

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    Thanks, Jim -- once again JVB has helped me spend $$$!!:lol3

    Thanks' Rat sends


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  3. rsimpson

    rsimpson Long Way OK?

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    Hi Guys,

    a couple questions regarding the install::

    1. From the battery, I have yellow and red wires and from the HID kit I have blue and black. Can you tell me what connects to what?

    2. The 23mm hole I cut around the plastic base doesnt look large enough to fit some of the connectors through. How did you do this?

    Thank you!
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  4. JimVonBaden

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    Hi guys,

    a couple questions regarding the install::

    1. From the battery, I have yellow and red wires and from the HID kit I have blue and black. Can you tell me what connects to what?

    Nothing from the battery goes to the HID wiring, or anywhere else. Unplug the wires from the original light and plug them into the HID wiring, brown to black, and then the other ones. Plug the other wires from the HID ballast to the HID bulb. No additional wiring to fit.



    2. The 23mm whole I cut around the plastic base doesnt look large enough to fit some of the connectors through. How did you do this?

    Thank you!

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    The 23mm hole is fine, remove the wire clip on the big plug, push it through, you will have to work it, and then reinstall the wire clip in the big plug that goes to the ballast.


    Basically you make a loop fromn the original wires to the ballast, and back to the HID bulb.

    Jim :brow
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  5. thingbuilder

    thingbuilder Allergic to Velcro

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    I took these photos a while back and thought they might be a good reference for this thread. My used '05 R1200GS came with a Touratech high beam HID aux light and ballast. I decided to make a similar mount for the low beam HID ballast. The material is some scrap .120 aluminum. A couple of zip ties were added for insurance. I had the tank off when I did the work but it wasn't necessary for this. This is probably overkill but may be of some help. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
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  6. JimVonBaden

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    Well done!:thumb I am actually redoing mine in a similar orientation.

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  7. rsimpson

    rsimpson Long Way OK?

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    Wow, that looks good. I'm embarrassed now to show my set-up, but it was quick and easy.

    Did this today. Provides another option for ballast location: Under the beak. It is definitely more susceptible to the elements here, but I'll keep an eye on things and report back issues, if any.


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    You can see that the ballasts are mounted using the existing bolt from the lightbar. The tabs from both ballast mounts overlap. Used 2 zipties to hold the ballast to the mount, and one ziptie to hold the other side of the ballast to the light bar. Not exactly pretty, but it works
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  8. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Looks good Ryan, and I might be doing something similar in the future to get access to my accessory plug back!

    Jim :brow
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  9. thingbuilder

    thingbuilder Allergic to Velcro

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    That mount looks good to me rsimpson. :thumb

    Here's a question for the GS experts.
    I just went out and started the R1200GS since I plan to ride in the morning and haven't started it for a few days.
    The headlight error showed up on the display and I had no light.
    When I first installed the HID light, I got the same error but took a hint from another posting, reversed the power leads and turned on the key..no light of course but turned it off, switched the leads back and restarted. At first there was an error but the HID light came on and now there seems to be no problem.
    The only thing I have done since the last time I rode was to plug in the battery tender. Did this reset something in the GS brain? Did I let the battery get too low before plugging in the charger? Is this somethng that others have experienced?
    Inquiring minds want to know.
    :nod
    Thanks
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  10. JimVonBaden

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    :dunno

    That is a new one on me. The error stayed on after the bike was running, and you had no light?

    Jim :brow
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  11. thingbuilder

    thingbuilder Allergic to Velcro

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    That's right.
    I thought maybe the computer was looking for a specific load that wasn't there??? Somehow reversing the power leads from the old bulb resets it???

    TB
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  12. Jettson

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    Thing,
    what year is your GS. mine is an '07. I just ran a dry run of my new HID. I used the same one JVB installed. I hooked it all up without mounting the ballast....fired up the bike and no light, no light error. I stopped the bike checked all of the wiring, without changing anything, and fired up the bike again. This time the light worked, however, I did get a battery warning light briefly ( it shuts off after a second or two). I started and stopped the bike several times and the light continued to light but I still get the battery icon on the display........oh well I think i will go ahead and mount the ballast.

    I went with the 6000K lights and they are very bright, makes my original lights look dull yellow.
    Jett:ear
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  13. JimVonBaden

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    The best way to test it is to hook it up to the high beam. No need to start ther bike. As for the battery warning, that is normal HID or not. If you give it a bit of gas the warning will go out. It is usually an indication the battery is a bit weak.

    Jim :brow
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  14. thingbuilder

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    Jett,
    My bike is a 2005.
    Started this morning and rode all day without a problem.
    I don't know why I had the failure last night.

    TB
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  15. Jettson

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    Thanks Jim, I dont remember if the battery icon shows all the time, at start up, or not..........I have a new Odyssey battery in it I guess i might have to charge it.

    I was originally going to only put the low beam in however, i am most impressed with the low beam and now I will also install the high beam.
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  16. rsimpson

    rsimpson Long Way OK?

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    Happy New Year's Eve all,

    Got a LAMPF! warning and noticed my low beam wasn't working. I pulled over, turned the bike off, checked wiring, started the bike back up, low beam came on, and warning was gone. Road about 20 feet and the warning came back on and the low beam turned off and stayed off. Have not had an issue with the high beam and I run it all day.

    HELP! That low beam is important!

    Ryan
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  17. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    I wish I could help, but the only difference between the two is that one goes on when starting, and one doesn't. Can you swap the wiring between ballasts? Might work if they are close enough.

    Mine has not done this at all, though I rarely run the high beam during the day!

    Jim :brow
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  18. leafman60

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    Hey guys, do these HID ballasts generate much heat ??? I am wondering if there is any problem attaching them with or onto plastic.
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  19. cpallen

    cpallen Nearly Adventurer

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    I have read everything I can on the subject and still can't decide on which way to go. I think I am mostly concerned with conspicuity - the GS has as good or better headlights than any other bike I've owned and I have never had a problem seeing what I need to see (using UK Vision Plus lamps). It would seem that it would also be pretty hard to miss a GS w/ a HID low beam.

    Seems like the HID conversion could be cheaper (even assuming both High and Low beam) than say a set of Micro DE's and a Best Rest Light Bar and easier on the GS's electrical budget, and more integrated - so it should be a no brainer. But I'm concerned about the lamp faults, and I have also read of bulbs "off gassing" and damaging the lens and reflectors, and concerned about brief intermittent use of the high beam. Some body push me over the edge one way or the other!
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  20. NBeener

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    This might be another case of a small, rare problem gets magnified over the 'net.

    For me, I have about 3,000 miles on my HID's (cqlights.com), hi and lo. Absolutely zero problems.

    Absolutely wonderful upgrade.

    I mounted the ballasts and igniters in the mess between the tank and the beak. Could probably get pics, if wanted, but ... pretty comparable to how many others have done it. Big zip ties. Survived lots of fairly punishing off road (it wasn't the terrain so much as how poorly I ride off-road :D)

    The only downside I've found? It's made me incredibly lazy about mounting my FF200 fogs on my Terra Nova light bar ... which just sits naked on my GS ... looking, for all the world, like a fixed-wing.

    Jump, man, jump.
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