HID Conversion on a 12GS (pictorial)

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by JimVonBaden, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. Crazy Canadian

    Crazy Canadian All who wander r not lost

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    Well I put a link to this thread on my Christmas list to my parents so hopefully it will spark the Step Fathers interest...
  2. Stressfest

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    Good info, thanks guys... think I'll do the same and order some spares. Just incase :evil
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    An update.

    After 3 years, vvme kits are still working fine. Set in the headlights, set in the 910's. No issues at all.
  4. yellowbirdrs

    yellowbirdrs Been here awhile

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    Best mode under $90 dlls. H7 55w & h11 35w for the fog lights. I did not install the xenon hi beam to keep the flash to pass option and keep the bulb and the ballast as replacement.
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  5. cesarb

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    I recently installed an HID system on my 2010 GS (low suspension, no ESA). I used DDM Tuning's 35 watts, 4500K for the high and low beams. Reason being that I had these on my '08 Ducati 1098S and they did not fail for the 2 years and 75000 miles that I had them on. Rode in heavy rain lots of times as well so I know they work. On the Duc I had teh 3000k and they were fine so I wanted to try the next step up with the 4500k.
    I installed them in no time but unfortunately, broke both spring bulb clips groove or tabs (that flimsy plastic piece). Shit always happens when I rush to do stuff (could not help it as I was just excited). I decided to take off the headlight unit which is super simple as only 2 screws (and 3 plugs) hold/attach to it.
    To fix the clips, I used a bit of epoxy and made a new groove where the clips sit and used a washer and the stock screw.
    After this was fixed, it was easy to install the HID set up. A 1" hole saw made the perfect hole in the caps.
    The back of the digital slim ballasts already have a stick bak adhesive but I stuck a heavy duty snap lock velcro? (like that used on the EZ Pass) on it and mounted them on the front part of the gas tank. Still on the not facing forward and well hidden. The igniter is also hidden from view. The 4 wires coming out of the cap are wrapped in fabric tape and tucked underneath the small black plastic cover on each side of the bike. its like a trim piece.
    I will try and post pics here. Can't seem to post and I am using cell phone jpg!
  6. TXjames

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    Heads up! There's a ridiculously cheap sale going on right now w/ free shipping. If you've been on the fence, now's your time...

    VVME HID conversion kits
  7. Rollmo

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    Bought an H7 VVME two weeks ago, installed it last week, works great, both ballasts:dunno
  8. yellowbirdrs

    yellowbirdrs Been here awhile

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    My LAMPF! randomly pop up when I turn the key the low beam flashes then after the system check start the bike and sometimes the low beam start up and sometimes won't? I will install a canbus error eliminator and give it a try.

    GSA 55w H7 5000k DDM slim
  9. Florida Lime

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    My 55W DDMs have been nothing but trouble. Never got the high beam to work for more than a few minutes, tried 2 ballasts, new bulbs, etc. Error eliminators made no difference. Works fine now with a DDM 35W ballast.
    The 55w DDM low beam is fine, unless it has to start in freezing weather. :lol3 All the 35W lights (high beam, H11 fogs, and Soltek Fuegos) will work fine, but the low beam is AWOL until it warms up outside.
  10. yellowbirdrs

    yellowbirdrs Been here awhile

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    In my case is the oposite my 55w low beam works randomly I change the 55w ballast for a 35w and works great even in winter >32F :norton
  11. Stressfest

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  12. def

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    I never understood what some were attempting to achieve with a 55W HID ballast when a 35 W provides the same lumens....
  13. Florida Lime

    Florida Lime Long timer

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    Not the first time you've said that, but any specs I see for lumen output disagrees with you. :ear
  14. Florida Lime

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    I'm not debating whether 35W is "enough" or if 55W is "too much".
    Everything I see says that 35W HID produces about 3200 lumens, and 55W HID produces 4500+ lumens, and stating that they produce the same lumens without anything to back up that information may be misleading.
  15. yellowbirdrs

    yellowbirdrs Been here awhile

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    55w produce more light using the same temperature bulb of course you can use a lower temperature bulb to match the light color but you loose some distance and I mean like 10-15% of good light distance.
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    GSQuester not-quite-a-n00b

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    It's the heat. Not all the electrical power delivered to an HID bulb is converted into photons - some is just waste heat. So for a 35W HID system let's say 20W is converted to photons (and let's be generous and say you have a perfect reflector so 100% of those photons are reflected out of the headlight and none are simply absorbed internally and converted to heat), then that leaves 15W of heat being dissipated inside the headlight.

    Now use a 55W bulb and the same conversion efficacy and you have about 24W of heat inside the headlight. The reality though is some percentage of the light is getting absorbed as well, and with a brighter bulb, that's even more heat. In that small a space with maybe close to 30W of heat, you're definitely going to get plastic melting...
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    I just replaced my High beam and Hella FF50s with this kit.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320588241206&viewitem=#ht_5039wt_1167

    He accepted a best offer of $37.00 ea, free shipping and I had them in 3 days.

    Anyway. I have had my low beam VVME kit (same as original post) installed since Nov. 2007. One of the ballasts was bad, is why I only did my low beam.

    So on a whim, well, after reading one of the posts where one of you did the HID upgrade to their Hella FF50's, I wanted to do the same.

    The Ballast is REALLY SMALL, and its still plug and play. My high beam does not throw any Canbus faults, yet anyway.

    I cut the plugs off the end of the bulb wire and utilized the existing grommets on the back of the FF50s, no drilling, not mess.

    The only complaint so far is that there are no grommets included with this kit. Not a deal breaker though.

    Anyway for comparison. Here is my bike back in 2006 with OEM bulbs in all lights.

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    Now for what I played with tonight.

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    How the material was packaged.... Not very well to be honest, but everything is serviceable, and I bench tested all 4 bulbs and Ballasts prior to installing.

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    The size of the ballast.

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    And what 4 35w HIDs look like from the front.... Low Beam is still the VVME 4300k bulb and ballast from 2007, the 2 Hella FF50's and High Beam are all 5000k, but I cant tell a difference in color or intensity.

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    My Hellas are still slaved via relay from the High Beam, and powered from a Blue Seas fuse block. That way when I hit the high beams, they come on too.

    Again, after a brief shake down ride, no canbus faults... More miles will tell the full story though. And yes, H11 Bulbs are on their way to me so I can upgrade my factory fog lights to HID as well. Over kill, yes, but I am ok with that.
  20. birdie_xx

    birdie_xx Been here awhile

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    I have their kit in my Accord, but it's the standard ballast kit. I have the 5K bulbs and I wish they offered the 4300... The auction shows square ballasts and you received cylindrical ones ? Were they easy to install ?

    Cheers,