HID Conversion? Sick of blowing low beams

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Gangplank, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    I've gone through two low beam lights in 13,500 miles.

    Considering a change to HID's. Anyone done it on the F800GS?
    Heard good things about

    DDM Tuning
    Xentec

    Any others out there worth considering?
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  2. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    The worse part is drilling that first hole in the back of the headlight. But if you decide to take them out I think the rear cover you have to drill is like $25.00

    I run the Cheep ones, 35w, I can't recall if they are 4300 or 5000 K. Any higher is blue and attracts police.
    mine are from vvme. I only run the low beam on the F800. Ballest is behind the battery, starter is velcroed to inside the plastic shrouds.

    Major difference
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  3. jc9995

    jc9995 Commuting BEAST :)

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    Haven't done it on my f650gs yet... But when I do I plan on getting it from theretrofitsolution.com. they are fantastic. I have done 2 retrofits on other vehicles, and have helped with another. They have been great help on all of then.
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  4. DRIVER

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  5. C5!

    C5! Been here awhile

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    I've got the DDM, 50W kit.
    installed it on the high beam, never worked, gives a lamp error and no light. just blinking when switched on. But if I connect it directly to the battery it works fine. sent a zillion emails to the support staff, called them as well. they told me to get the error eliminator (I don't remember the exact name. they come in pairs. I bought them but the problem persists. emailed them again and called, and no way to have an answer. obviously I had to reinstall the original halogen and tape the hole in the cover.
    As apparently there is no way to have a refund. I am thinking of installing it through a relay. but I am seriously upset by the lack of seriousness of this provider.
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  6. Crash-n-Skid

    Crash-n-Skid WileeeCoyote

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    I used http://www.1offmotorsports.com/ 6000K 55 watt kit to change out just the high beam. Finding a spot to mount the ballast was the hardest part. Takes about 15 seconds for the light to warm all the way up. 1offmotor sells the canceller with the light so you don't get a bulb error. They responded to questions quickly. Rode some country roads where they weren't any street lights this past weekend and was really glad to have the extra light. Its about $89 and has the slim ballast which you'll want. I think 6000K is good. Gives a good white light.
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  7. ebrabaek

    ebrabaek Long timer

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  8. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    Did you hook in a relay?
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  9. Mike.C

    Mike.C Stelvio Dreamer!

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    We have installed units in the low beam of our F798's from Futurevision HID, he is an inmate and runs a vendor thread.

    He supplies a special unit configured for the CANBUS that does not give error messages. No complaints and he has always given great service. We did our Guzzis with his units some years ago and they are still going strong .

    I looked into intslalling his Projector Conversion as it would be a far better beam pattern than relying on the OEM reflector, but unfortunately it won't fit. Having said that the beam pattern is quite acceptable with his units.
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  10. Camel ADV

    Camel ADV Long timer

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    Have run an AutoLoc HID system for about a year with no issues. Would definitely recommend it.
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  11. mapuda

    mapuda Crash Tested

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    :thumb

    I put mine in the low beam. I have had it installed for over a year with zero defects. Not expensive and it works. They also have a discount for ADVRiders in vendors.
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  12. reinerka

    reinerka Been here awhile

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    Strange, I use the DDM (35W) on both low and high beam and it works fine. I sometimes get a problem with the fault coming on but that is due to me doing stupid things :evil.

    Reiner
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  13. Miikka

    Miikka Sir Fallalot

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    I replaced my low beam with www.futurevisionhid.com 's 35W HID H7 kit (canbus model)
    and I've had zero problems with it.
    After that my high beam seemed like a candle in the wind...so I replaced that with
    a 50W HID no-name-kit from ebay. (60$) Takes quite a bit to warm up to full brightness
    but lights up the road pretty good!
    Not a single error/fault message. :freaky
    No issues finding a spot for ballasts with Mirage screen:



    -m

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  14. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    Reading this about the errors, I wonder if the cause is the 50W HID require to much start-up current?
    I have the 35w with digital ballast and never had a problem.
    Before installing it I did a test with a meter I have that has a memory. It peaked at around 4A draw when first starting the bulb and around 3A running.

    A 50W incandescent bulb will draw 4.16A # 12V (P=IxE)

    So my starting current of 4A is around what the normal bulb uses in power.
    I don't know what current the can-bus uses as a threshold for over-current, but I bet the initial start-up current of the 50W HID is higher then that threshold on some of these lights 50w lights.

    Believe me when I say the 35W HID emits enough light :evil.
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  15. C5!

    C5! Been here awhile

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    no yet. Just ordered one from FutureVision HID
    http://www.futurevisionhid.com/hid-relay-kit-harness.html
    these guys really have a tremendous support, all the time they invested answering all my questions and all this for a $20 sale ! and an added 15% advrider discount !! hats off.
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  16. Crash-n-Skid

    Crash-n-Skid WileeeCoyote

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    Miikka what is that mount you have around the gauges? It looks like maybe you could mount a GPS or something fairly large above the gauges? It looks something like the instrument cover you can get from touratech but a lot taller. Can anyone clear up what that is or something like it? Very interested. Thanks.

    "instrument cover you can get from touratech"
    http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/...-cover-with-BMW-outlet-BMW-F800GS-F650GS-Twin
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  17. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    Looks like DDM T. Is 45-75 depending on what is needed. Harness, eliminator?

    FutureV is $200.

    For my money I'll try the 35w DDM
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  18. Miikka

    Miikka Sir Fallalot

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    It's all part of the Mirage 2 fairing by Britannia Composites. You'll find more info about it from
    their website http://www.britanniacomposites.com/mirage2.html and/or here:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628504

    And yes, you can mount a gps or other gadgets on the dash that it provides.
    I have a gpsmap 276 mounted on mine.

    -m

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  19. Gangplank

    Gangplank Advenchaintourer

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    I decided to get the DDM Tuning HIDs. A buddy owns a local motorcycle repair shop and said he has done dozens of them and they work no prob. So I said order me up some of the 35w HID's. He says, ordered you a pair of 55w. :rofl

    Back and forth about tossing a CANBUS code, he says lets do it and I'll order the error code eliminator. If we don't need it we'll send it back. Parts in a week, took us about 45 min to install which is plug and play. Didn't put the error code eliminator in and they work just fine. :-D

    Are these bright enough?
    [​IMG]

    They are these and were like $45 + shipping per pair. After helping him install them I easily could have done it myself. Tucked the ballasts in the side fairing and used heavy duty stick down velcro to hold them in place: http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W
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  20. Noyah

    Noyah poser

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    I'm out testing a hid kit I bought a few days ago.
    Happy so far.

    [​IMG]

    Sent from my HTC
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