Highland Motors

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by 805gregg, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. MookieBlaylock

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    can you say wheely machine:rofli'm prety sure that is the coolest bike on the planet
    have you tried the offroad sprocket yet,,the reason i ask is that on my ktm adding just 3 teeth on the rear makes it short enough for walking pace while still allowing relaxed 80 mph cruise - taking 2 off the front and adding more on the back would be interesting
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  2. John in Leeds

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    Rex, wheely is understatement. I think the KTM may be a lot better just off idle to give you the walk. Sorry I can't try out till April but I hope my mates have some 'soft green lanes' for me to try on. Mind you last time I went out with them they found a couple of sections to 'stretch me' (can we turn round now please - no!). I'm sure the bike will handle it, not so sure about the rider.
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  3. John in Leeds

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  4. Cupid Stunt

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    Come on then John we want to know more
    have you sorted the off idle throttle or jerky fueling in the lower revs ?
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  5. John in Leeds

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    Have not had much chance to do many miles recently and I don't think that the fuelling is going to get top priority this year. Tooling around with my mate on his Blackbird showed he had no advantage till a hundred and in compaison handled like a tub of lard. Starting to rev it now just to 8000 but it gets there so quick and the wind blast over a hundred leads to less stability so I don't go there much. I have learned to ride above the very bottom end stutter and to be honest I have ridden bikes much worse than this, its just that my Rosso Corsa fuels so cleanly right off idle I probably expect too much.

    Have got some better fuel economy now it is nearly run in, 40mpg (imperial) as a hooligan to 50mpg staying just over the speed limits. :clap

    In a weeks time I expect to take it down my mates place near Limoge in France. I will do it in the day so will get some idea of its distance potential, reliability etc. When I get back we have an off road trail day organised, so in about a month expect some more info hopefully with some decent pictures :ricky

    Thanks for your interest :thumb
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  6. BikePilot

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    Thanks for all the updates:clap Just wanted to let ya know I've been reading them and they are appreciated. 370lbs is really light for such a machine! That's got to be about a hundred lbs lighter than the ktm950SE (wet) I guess.
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  7. Cupid Stunt

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    Thanks John
    Yes, please do keep us posted

    Am I right in thinkig that Highland have stopped producing bikes now and are soley concentrating on developing for other manufacturers ?

    It kind of reads that way on their website
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  8. Schlug

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    put something on and stay in that position.
    hey, just wanted to say thanks for that review. well written and you covered all the big issues. i appreciate your taking time.

    i visited the other forum that was linked and read about some fellow claiming his CRF puts out 53 bhp to the rear wheel. it's possible, but not very easy. check out Ron Hamp's site-- he's got a CRF that turns 60 horse... but it isn't easy, that head is totally rework, polished, ported, etc.

    http://www.ronhamp.com/portal/default.asp?id=27&mnu=27

    i would love to know what the Highland does on a dyno.
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  9. SQD8R

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    :freaky Thanks John. A very prized possession, two actually. 60 odd pounds lighter than my HP2. :huh Wow.
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  10. John in Leeds

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    They do seem a little illusive, however parts seem to come through without problem to the dealer. They may be a little tardy but they do come.

    There doesn't seem to be any real activity pushing the new bikes although the dealer says they are available. I hope to talk to Tim the importer soon about his Highland/Spondon road bike, then we should have some more definitive news.

    It looks to me as if Highland are trying to tie up with a Chinese manufacturer so they can up the volume but as so much of the bike is made by european manufacturers (ohlin, mazochi?, talon, brembo and excel etc) they may have a problem with getting that sort of quality in a far cheaper bike.

    For information - last fill up the fuel light came on at 225kms then taking 16 litles of fuel, near enough 40mpg imperial. If there is another 6 litres? in the tank then that should be near enough 190 miles. That blatting about fairly quickly. I will run it out when the carrier is properly fitted and I can carry a reserve to get me to the nearest fuel pump.

    The French trip on Sunday is giving me some cause for thought, I have no motorcycle luggage system now except a couple of topboxes. Throwing a leg over a tall bike with a top box is likely to be a stretch for this poor old soul so I may make do with just a couple of Ortleibs from my cycle as panniers. Pics will come. This trip should certainly throw up any comfort issues and I intend to use a sheepskin to aid the seat bum interface.:eek1
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  11. BikePilot

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    Try either doing a karate kick type mount or stand a bit further foward of the bike when mounting so that your leg will be in front of the top box, then after it clears allow yourself to slide back a bit. Its not entirely natural, but works well enough for me when riding with stuff piled high on the back of the bike:)

    have fun
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    awsome pics and report there john, i am surprised it comes in a little lighter than my elefant.
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  13. John in Leeds

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    Got me thinking, the weights were taken one wheel at time on Suzy's scales so I can't be dead sure of the accuracy. I will weigh again when near a weighbridge or some other family scales. Don't think it will be out by much though.

    Found a pic of the engine with clean running induction system - supposed to be the big horse power version. Don't think that will go cleanly under the existing tank :rofl

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  15. John in Leeds

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    So after a week away some feedback on the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Highland</st1:place></st1:City> distance ability.
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    The run out from <st1:place>Leeds</st1:place> to Newhaven, ferry to <st1:City><st1:place>Dieppe</st1:place></st1:City>, then <st1:City><st1:place>Rouen</st1:place></st1:City> (got lost), <st1:City><st1:place>Chartres</st1:place></st1:City>, <st1:City><st1:place>Orleans</st1:place></st1:City> and finally Availles Limouzine not too far from Limoge gave road miles of just under 700. All off peage (toll roads). Time taken including stops and ferry crossing some 19 hours. The majority at 130 – 140 kph around 85 mph with bursts for overtaking and boredom to 105 mph. Returned a smidge over 50mpg but there was a predominantly following wind. :clap


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    Return leg past Poitiers, Tours, le Mans just over 620 miles, This time using toll roads just over 20 euros. Time taken some 15 and a half hours. Mainly head wind and around 42 mpg.


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    The lack of windshield made any speed over 85 mph hard work. I had not realised on the short journeys at home using up to three figure speeds how tiring this would be for hours at a time. :ear It was no effort to the bike, power in plenty cruising around 4500rpm. No dangerous moments and the suspension was plush and accommodating as you would expect. No annoying vibration at any riding speed but without a screen there is a little too much pull on the bars requiring a regular adjustment of seating position. Seat was good for a narrow configuration although for any long journey I generally wear padded cycling under shorts. The sheepskin cover I did not use as there was a lot of wet fog on the far side of the channel, once again the lack of screen made the ride very cold for me. On the return I had nearly every clothing item on including my rain suit. :cry :eek1 :cry
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    You will note from the pictures I had fitted an old set of handlebar muffs I used for commuting on my old GT750. A total lifesaver as no heated grips and they really stop the water getting in between the glove and sleeve. One interesting aside, with luggage off I took it out for a blast on some excellent roads near the race circuit at L’ Ille Jourdain (Magne Cour?) for some reason along the straights the bike seemed reluctant to go much above the ton where generally it romps away, and it also developed a little weave, just a bit unsettling. It took a few miles before I realised that the speed was collapsing the right hand muff onto the front brake lever acting like a speed limiter, the faster I went the more front brake was applied. The combination of power from the back and braking from the front giving cause to the unusual instability. There was no problem at the cruising speed although I regularly pushed the fingers of the right hand forward especially when into the head wind. :lol3
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    The luggage I mackled up from a couple of Ortlieb cycle panniers, cycle front low rider racks, a canoe bag and a light rucksack. Not the most sightly set up but carried all I need for the week close to the centre of gravity. The rucksack was soon taken off my back and strapped on top of the luggage. Weight was well forward in the passenger position and gave no instability at the speed I was using.


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    On the ferry the standard device of a strap across the seat was used although because of the long travel suspension this made the prop stand push the bike into a more vertical position. I used a bracer strap to keep the tension against the stand and kept the engine in first gear with a bungee rubber holding on the front brake. The bike did not move. (The crossing was pretty easy). If the bike had gone over the Ortliebs and muffs would have taken most damage. I did tag a road sign with the pannier when squeezing through a gap off a car park at a little ambitious speed. Fortunately the pannier being narrow and only containing tools and clothing it just took a scuff and did no damage.
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    Nothing came loose, broke or fell off. Fuel stops were far enough apart and the only concern was more oil than I would have expected from the breather into the air cleaner. No additional oil or coolant was required.
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    In summing up, yes it does the job for a good length journey, I’ve done just the same journey on an 1150GS. But like the GS doing really big miles is for the committed, I just wanted to know if I could do it on a bike that has far more off road potential. More to come, making pics to size

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  16. John in Leeds

    John in Leeds Been here awhile

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    Any advice please, preferably images at the size above :huh
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  17. John in Leeds

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    Stretch the legs

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  18. John in Leeds

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    Well forward, will try the top box soon

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  19. John in Leeds

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    Sheepskin not used

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  20. John in Leeds

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    Good for heavy traffic :wink:

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