Honda CB500X

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by JimmieA, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. sendler

    sendler Been here awhile

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    The Versys is $8000 and the 500X is $6000.
  2. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    I also wrote about these finishing touches / apparently lower build quality
    of plastics & gaps etc. few posts ago. The NC700X that was sitting right next
    to the CB500X looked and felt CONSIDERABLY better. They were also in
    the same color which helped the comparison.

    The paint on the 700 was deep and beautiful, the 500 looked like spray can,
    1 layer.
  3. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    Have been all over a white and a charcoal X model and my sons black R model and other than the cheap levers cannot find any fit or finish problems on any of them.

    It isn't good that some are showing up like reported above.

    What have the owners on here found with their bikes?
  4. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    It's not that there are PROBLEMS, it's just something you notice it's
    better on the 700X when you see them side by side.

    The 500X seems built like my kawasaki 650R was, cheap plastics, will
    probably rattle a bit but last a lifetime. The 700X is a proper Honda in
    every way.

    Wouldn't dream of trying to discourage anyone wanting a 500, but the
    700 is a better bike.
  5. GezwindeSpoed

    GezwindeSpoed Been here awhile

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    I do not understand most of the comments here. But hey that is me.

    Bought the bike for commuting and I like it very much, faster and more fuel economic then my previous XT660Z Tenere. Plastic quality is great, nothing wrong with the paint, grease on pivot points and no rattling of the plastic.

    If you want to go on adventure you have to do it yourself it is not the bike. Recently I had an adventure driving 1200km through sand and mud on my KLE on road tires. On nobby's the adventure would have been less.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CsizSsWsjk
  6. Pecha72

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    A lot of "I hear" and "they say" on that, don´t you think...?

    The Wee is a proven overlander and do-it-all bike. The CB500X could also be a bit similar, but at the moment that´s unknown, simply because it´s a new model. And it´s clearly a road-biased bike, so how it will perform, when taken outside its ´natural habitat´, is to be seen. Do not expect too much from it for off-road.
  7. ERD

    ERD Custom Rider

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    I believe the CB500's are world bikes with parts sourced from around the world. It's part of Honda's world-wide strategy where a bike model could be sold in any market with minimum changes.

    The CB500 follows the CBR250 in that they use plastic parts that are sourced in Asia (Thailand, I believe). While the plastic might not give the fit and finish of a metal or fiberglass part, they are cheap to manufacture and cheap to replace.

    I haven't done it yet, but I'm guessing that replacement parts for the CB500 are much less expensive than the NT700, making it a good bike for daily commuter and mild adventure riding.
  8. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    I don't know, but for the price the CB500X seems like a great little adventure style bike and it should sell well. If you want high quality plastics and components, you should look past the NC700 to start with.
  9. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    They cost virtually the same here so..
  10. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

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    I'm pretty sure this whole new 500 range is manufactured in Thailand.
  11. Cos

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    2 Grand more for the 700 in Cyprus
  12. dduelin

    dduelin Amazing grace how sweet the sound....

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    A 19" front wheel would slow down the steering and make it less nimble on the street. It wouldn't handle as well with a 19" on the street and a 19" is not really the ticket for riding in dirt anyway, that is what 21" fronts are for so the 19" ends up being a fashion compromise. If the bike is used most of the time on the street the 19" ends up being a drawback. Someone that knows what they are doing can ride within the limits of a 17" on unimproved roads which is what most of the adventure posers ride anyway.
  13. scarysharkface

    scarysharkface 30-125

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    Lots of them are dead.

    500 looks like a great little bike either way. Probably not enough motor for me, but maybe I'm wrong about that.

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  14. Jud

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    Notice the "any real drawabacks" in my post. You are right, apples to apples, a 19 front "should be slower steering" than a 17 inch front but things would not be "apples to apples". There are many factors that go into how a bike steers and front wheel size is only one aspect. The CB isn't a repli-racer and the amount a 19 inch front would slow down steering on this type bike is insignificant. My DL650 has lighter and quicker steering than many bikes with a 17 inch front and is plenty nimble on the street. Considering the bikes light weight and reputed low COG, I'm betting a switch to a 19 front wouldn't have any noticeable effect, none that 99% of the riders would notice. Especially considering how this type of bike will be ridden most of the time.

    I can see why Ducati went with a 17 inch front on the Multi Tarma,,,,, that's a bike in which a 19 would make enough of a detrimental difference to matter. I can see why a GSXR or the like has a 17. I can even see why Yamaha fitted a 17 front on my FJR. I can not understand why Honda choose to fit a 17 on this bike as the 19 would not be a detriment in commuting, wouldn't be a detriment in 99% of riding and that 1% when you are hauling the mail in the twisties,,,, most riders wouldn't notice it.

    On the other hand, a 19 front would have opened up many tire options that would have worked great on this type of bike. The 19 inch front is just smoother over rough terrain whether that be pot-holes on tarmac or rough, unmaintained roads off tarmac. It doesn't matter that a "fast guy" of a bike with a 17 inch front is faster off tarmac than a poser on a bike with a 19 inch front. This isn't about "fast",,,, it's about the best tool for the job and like I said, a 19 inch front has a better, broader tire selection and it's noticeably smoother off tarmac and on rough tarmac. That is more of a consideration on this type of bike than ultimate speed or handling IMO.

    Add is another inch of travel at both end and another inch of clearance,,,,, and you would have had a bike that would have been better at being an all-around bike than my DL. As it is, it's just another streetbike with poser styling. There are a see of streetbikes out there to pick from,,,,, very few decent all-round bikes in this weight and price range. There is a reason Suzuki sells the hell outta the DLs. They do a lot of thing "good-enough" despite not being great at any one thing. Had the CB500X had the 19 front, additional travel and clearance,,,,, it woulda been a home run for this price range. And like I said, it wouldn't have add a dime to the bike's cost.

    Yes, you an ride any bike off tarmac,, my FJR has done more dirt road mileage than most GSs and DLs but it sure would have been easier on my DL and easier still on a CB500X "if" it had just a few changes, changes that would not have cost a dime more and changes that wouldn't have significantly hurt it's on-road manner. As it is, I would buy a used DL over a new CB500X. Maybe, someone will find work out an easy fix for a 19 front and find some additional travel via mods like I did on my DL. Maybe then I'll pick up a nice cheap used CB for the wife and get to modding.

    I'm not bashing the CB500X, I'm just lamenting the fact that Honda choose to bunt when it woulda been so easy and cost effective to just smack a home run.:1drink
  15. fragile_this_side_up

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    Reason why honda is running a 17... cause the f and r have them.. do they already make a bike with a cast 19? If not then yes, it would have cost more and they would of had to have one off parts for the front wheel and tire.
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    Point taken, you are ultimately correct and I was technically wrong on the statement of "not a dime more" but really,,,, how much would it cost for their supplier to cast up a 19? Bet it wouldn't add 100$ to the CB500X's bottom line. The travel and additional clearance would be the same,,,,, different than the F and R but honestly,,, not much when talking economies of scale. I bet it wouldn't have taken 250$ to have made this bike worlds better.

    Honda has a habit if this. Take for instance their XR650L. It's a decent big bore dual sport that even today only gets bested for it's intended purpose buy something like a Husky TE610/630. Even so, it has little issues that are irritating and if addressed,,,, would make the bike so much better for it's intended use. The front forks suck,,,, yet they have nice USD forks on their CRF line that would be easy to mount up. I know,,, I already did it and it didn't cost much more that 300$ after I sold the OEM parts. Honda coulda done it much cheaper.

    The tranny gearing could be better. It does have a wider gear spread than most big bore thumpers but the 1st to 2nd spread sucks yet they have a 2nd gear already produced and used in another bike that's perfect. They also have a 5th gear that's about 5-10% taller and would spread that gearing range even wider and would have allowed a lower final gearing so one could run even slower in 1st yet still have the same cruise rpm. Again, already produced, woulda just taken a trip to the parts bin. I bought the 2nd and 5th gears and will eventually install then but it takes splitting the cases and that will have to wait. Again, Honda coulda easily added the 2nd and 5th gears at basically no cost and had one of the best gearing of all the big bores but nope.

    Had Honda took the time to change to the better tranny gears and used a the CRF USD forks, the XR650L would be so much better but nope,,,,, Honda refuses to make the changes and the parts have been around for ages. Add fuel injection {250-500$ max added to the final price and man, the XR would be the bee's knees in my opinion. It would be a home run but nope,,,,,, bunt, bunt,,,, make a half assed attempt and leave it that way for 20years when you have all the parts needed for a great bike.:dunno
  17. theloop

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    Plus the NC700x and the NC700s and the CTX700 and the CTX700n. But this may one of the reason why the CB500x with ABS is $6,499 and the 650 strom is $8,299.
  18. Cruz

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    The 500X runs 41mm forks and so did the 600 Transalp with 21 inch front wheel. Wonder who will try it first?

    Just need to get triple clamp widths for each model.
  19. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Still, the 500 could be the winner here because it has a real motorcycle motor, it should be virtually more fun. :D
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