Honda CB500X

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by JimmieA, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. dogjaw

    dogjaw plays well alone

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,254
    Location:
    between the Ozarks and the Ouachitas
    I left Taos this AM after being awakened by a small bear in the camp, 575 miles of twisties and slab, no problem at all cruising at 80, and the speedometer is balls on accurate with a GPS up to 100, don't ask how I know this. Doing a roadside oil change tomorrow AM before finishing up my journey. And a pic of my set-up set up...[​IMG]
  2. Mobiker

    Mobiker Long timer

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2003
    Oddometer:
    1,904
    Location:
    Missouri
    I beg to differ. There are 4 kinds of bikes in the silly Midwest. You left out Goldwings, and Japanese Harley clones.

    To keep this on topic, I'm going to have to get to the local dealers and see if either one has an X in stock. I like the idea of light bikes. One of the most fun bikes I've ever owned was a Honda Hawk GT. A little lighter than the 500's, a lot more trick, probably a little more torque, probably a little less horsepower. The only thing I didn't like about the Hawk was mediocre gas mileage combined with a small tank equaled short range. The 500's remedy this.
  3. DonQx

    DonQx Peripathetic @ Heart

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,694
    Location:
    Hobart, Tasmania, Land of Oz
  4. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    4,408
    Location:
    Oregon
    A revised suspension and 19-in front wheel should do well enough for me.
  5. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Oddometer:
    16,338
    Location:
    Carried Forth
    Wow.

    Good for those guys.

    Sometimes I read an ADV 'wish list' and just roll my eyes. At least these guys took a platform and rolled with it.

    :clap
  6. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

    Joined:
    May 29, 2002
    Oddometer:
    19,744
    Location:
    Fort Collins, Colorado
    Come on Honda, just make a 500X ADV version from the factory with that suspension/wheel concept and you would sell a ton of them!!! Like Kawi w/ the Versys package YOU so are sooo close yet missing the mark.

    Hell just offer and optional off-road bolt on package to complete the deal.
  7. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2008
    Oddometer:
    6,414
    Location:
    Northside Brisbane, Qld Australia
    Anyone on Facebook know how the 500X went in the race above? :ear
  8. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    4,408
    Location:
    Oregon
    Perhaps. Let's talk about this.

    There isn't a bike in the market that comes ready for rally. "Adventure", in the name or the concept, there are plenty of bikes out there. But you still need to upgrade suspension on those bikes, add engine and sump protection, raise bars, and the list goes on.

    That is, if Honda made an "adventure" version, it would still be lacking. I prefer to start from a blank slate and pick the components that I want and make it to suit to my view of what "adventure" is. I bet your view is different than mine.

    Honda's advantage for the CBX500 as a good starting platform:
    - relatively light (430 lbs wet?)
    - right motor size (good for the paved road and no need for a gigantic fuel tank to get 200 mile + range, more than enough power for dirt),
    - assume Honda quality (let's see about that, but my bet is that it is good)
    - not an expensive starting point.

    When I saw this bike I thought, good, a great starting point, something that doesn't look like a moto-cross look-a-like thumper from the early 80's. And a 2-cyl motor, my favorite. And the price is right.
  9. Roadscum

    Roadscum Long timer

    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Oddometer:
    2,584
    Location:
    SW Florida
    Don't hold your breath waiting. The money is in the mass markets, not the niche markets. Why not buy it stock, do the mods yourself and make it you own.

    Regards, Paul
  10. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2006
    Oddometer:
    7,170
    Location:
    Croatia
    Some of us don't want to, don't know how to or don't have any tools.
    Some live in apartments and don't have a garage. Some don't have skill
    needed.

    Me?
    I'm all of the above.
  11. McJamie

    McJamie STROMINATOR

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,414
    Location:
    Courtice, Ontario, Canada
    There seems to be a lot of "Factory-ish" bits on those bikes. Maybe Honda's using them as a test mule sort of thing.

    I'd be OK with just the 19" front wheel being the only change. Much bigger choice in tires at that point.
  12. Jud

    Jud Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    2,688
    Location:
    N.E. Ga. USA
    I know it's been beat to death but I'll stand by my bitching,,,,, adding an inch or two more travel on both ends and a 19 inch wheel just wouldn't have added a huge amount of money to this bike. I doubt it would add 500$ if Honda did it. I know an additional inch or two of travel and a 19 inch wheel doesn't sound like it would make a huge difference but it really does.

    Since his isn't a repli-racer,, the extra travel and the 19 inch wheel wouldn't be a huge detriment on the street. IMO, they would not have lost sales due to the travel, the 19 inch wheel or the 250-500$ more max it woulda cost. IMO, they would have gained some sales from having a pretty decent, low cost alternative to something like the BMW singles and chain driven twins.

    If Honda would learn from BMW, the advantages of building multiple bikes off of one bike,,,,,,,,,, they'd do even better. If some on here or Honda really thinks that 500$ would make or break this bike, if the people buying this would just hate it if lost the least little smidge of on tarmac handling due to the extra travel and larger wheel diameter,,,,,,,,, they should off another model that offers those as an additional cost model. I honestly think that might be the best option if people really think 250-500$ would make or break this bike.
  13. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Oddometer:
    16,338
    Location:
    Carried Forth
    I don't necessarily disagree, but the make or break with the 500 series is as an entry-level bike in Yurp on the new A2 licence, or a premium purchase in emerging markets.
  14. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    4,408
    Location:
    Oregon
    This bike IS the result of a three bikes from one platform - remember R, F and X. Only thing is that it is based on a street platform.

    There isn't much on this bike that would limit it much in relation to a BMW 700GS or Tiger 800 roadie in terms of light "adventure". I would say the Honda is ready, and would do the same someone can do on a 700GS or the Tiger roadie. Except for the extra power of those other bikes, of course. Yes, a larger front wheel could be good, but it would still not be a spoke wheel, right? So, anyway, you wouldn't do anything radical, so you won't need more suspension travel or a 19 in wheel, right? I would say, go get it and ride it away towards the horizon. It will do fine!

    Now, for my version of adventure, which carries a "rally" perspective, the 700GS won't cut it. Neither does the 500X. But it is less expensive to start from the 500X than it is from the BMW. Even the 800GS needs some expensive upgrades to make it a rally bike - and it is heavy and expensive to start with.

    By the way, I saw the 500X for the first time today. I like the lightness of it when sitting on it, moving it from side to side, feels very light. Nice. It is "cheap" looking in all respects, though. Which is OK if you plan to ride it rough. You won't feel bad about scratching it, breaking plastic here and there.

    Adding one inch height from a 19in wheel + one inch suspension travel front and one inch+ on the back should still keep it reasonable in terms of seat height. Have to check clearance on front end for compression of a revised fork.

    Front fender... there is room to go up, and it seems doable to create braces to raise it an inch to accommodate a larger wheel. Having only one disc on front makes it easy to remove the low fender, if one so desires, and add a motocross fender.

    Suspension travel, obviously it can be done. I would not add too much travel (perhaps one inch, maybe some more not much). A good suspension component might be more relevant for most uses. Something that the 800GS and the Tiger 800XC do not have!

    Wheels, I would suggest spoke wheels with a tubeless setup. Tubeless. a thing one could want to do with the 800GS, for example.

    Therefore, it seems it can be done. It will cost to make it right, a lot more than $500, but the result can be a nice rally bike.

    But for most people, like it was mentioned earlier here, this bike is ready to go. At the most, change the tires. And it will do very well.
  15. Thasiet

    Thasiet Adventurer

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2011
    Oddometer:
    12
    Do you believe the damper rod from an NC700X would be interchangeable with the one on this bike? Both are 41mm Showas, and per the parts fiche, many of the fork internals have the same part numbers. This might be a dead nuts simple way to bump the front up to 6.0 inches of travel, especially if one was already going spelunking down there to install a set of cartridge emulators.
  16. Gham

    Gham Long timer

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,452
    Location:
    Auburn Hills,MI.
    I glanced at the Honda website and didn't see what the GVWR was,anyone have any idea what this bike will carry before it starts crying for mercy or the shocks just say "screw it".
    I'm guessing my wife,myself,and some gear are just too much.
    Me by myself (210 lbs) with some gear it should be just fine.

    Now that I start doing the math I wonder if a wee would work:lol3
  17. DonQx

    DonQx Peripathetic @ Heart

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,694
    Location:
    Hobart, Tasmania, Land of Oz
    FB site is in Thai ... me not speak that language

    Looks like race isn't finished yet, they're up to leg / day 5 now

    pic of race results for leg 5 below

    CB500X race numbers are 112 and 104. 112 doesn't show, 104 place 7 of 15.

    114 and 101 are CRF450s methinks.

    [​IMG]
  18. theloop

    theloop Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2013
    Oddometer:
    545
    My owners manual does not show GVWR, but say's maximum weight capacity is 377 pounds or (171 kg) plenty for me since my wife wont ride.
  19. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2008
    Oddometer:
    6,414
    Location:
    Northside Brisbane, Qld Australia
    Thanks Don. :clap
  20. Jud

    Jud Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    2,688
    Location:
    N.E. Ga. USA
    That's a great idea. Some folks cut and lengthen the OE tubes if it's only an inch. I ended up using a DR650 damper tube and fork tubes in my DL650 fork bottoms as I wanted more height and the DR tubes gave me all I wanted. I will be using the cut and lengthen method on my wife's Ascot though. I will admit that if the dampers are the same dia. and the bolt dia is roughly the same,,,, it would be slick as long as Honda doesn't want an arm and a leg for them. Don't forget to closely compare the rebound hole diameters.:wink: