Honda CB500X

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by JimmieA, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. JMo (& piglet)

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    Hi UKJeeper - much like with a bicycle tyre, if there are no obvious bubbles forming (although if its a very slow leak the bubble take time to form, not like when you have a puncture) around the spoke nipples, then it's more likely a valve issue - either the core itself, or how it's sealed through the hole in the rim.

    If you're only losing one or two psi over an extended period of time, it could even be something as simple as the bead of the tyre being dirty/greasy/cut and not sealing tight against the rim.

    It might even be that the tyre itself has become slighty thin/porous at a certain point, even a tiny cut/hole in the bead itself. Out of interest, what brand of tyre have you fitted? - and I am presuming it's a tubless specific carcass of course.

    If you don't see any air bubbles forming around the spokes or valve, my suggestion would be to unseat the bead of the tyre, clean it and check it for damage/cuts (which might have happened when it was originally fitted) and similarly check the face of wheel rim inside the bead seat for any damage - then re-seat it and monitor the pressure again.

    Jx
  2. UKJeeper

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    It's a TKC80, Jenny. And I imagine it's the right one as John would have either fitted it or had it fitted.

    I know what you mean about the sh*t in the rims issue. Been jeepin' for long enough to have that happen many times. Though not ever had it reseal itself only to go again a couple weeks later. But I will reseat it (and clean it) to be sure.

    As I said above I've sunk the whole wheel and tyre in a water barrel and stared waiting for bubbles, but found nothing. So it's an odd one
  3. UKJeeper

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    Now this is what a rim leak is supposed to look like! Pulled off the wheel from my Wrangler tonight, inflated it, and sprayed it with the garden hose. Needs the tyre taking off, cleaning and reseating. At least it's obvious, not a stealth leak like the RR wheel/ TKC tyre may have.

  4. markinthailand

    markinthailand Been here awhile

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    I'm going to give that a go -- not sure if I can find Loctite 290 here, but worth looking. For me at least, the tires are not thin -- they are pretty new.
  5. worthydog

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    Heres a question for you honda guys: I am doing a 2week ride in Colombia 1/3 dirt. Choice for rental is cb500x or bmw F700gs, which is what I ride at home. We will be loaded for travel. Which would you take if someone else was paying the bill? Light weight is appealing. But then so is 75 hp when loaded on the tarmac.
  6. Cruz

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    Unless you just wanted a change for change sake, and you are happy with your 700, I would lean towards sticking with the bike you know.
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  7. tft

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    Are they both stock?
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    +1 Unknown roads, unknow hazards, fully loaded bike. I'd also stay with a known bike.
  9. worthydog

    worthydog Shosholoza

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    makes sense. I also just see that the CB500x has a 17 inch front wheel. I can't do that in dirt. Thanks for the advice!
  10. ben2go

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    I have no problems with the 17s in the dirt, sand, or mud. There's always the Rally Raid kit which gives spoke wheels in 17R/19F.
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  11. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    I agree about staying with what you know. Hard enough trying to keep a known bike upright in off road situations, without knowing/worrying how a new bike will react. One can go from fun to STRESSFUL in no time flat. Better to keep your abilities where they will do you the best.

    Actually kinda jealous you are making the trip. Would like to be there with you. Have a great time..... tp dd50
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  12. Wilde

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    Trying to make a decision between the CB500x (with the Rally Raid conversion) vs a Suzuki DR650 for a first bike. I'm guessing the DR650 would be better off-road and the CB500x better onroad. But... just how much better would the DR650 be off-road compared to a fully Rally Raid converted CB500x? Anyone have experience with both bikes?
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  13. UKJeeper

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    True. But, I can't see the rental company he's getting the bike from throwing a Stage 3 setup on there just for him... ;-)
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    How 'off road' are you talking?
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    With a gravel road a 1 and a technical singletrack a 10, let's say up to a 7.
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    Then the DR is definitely going to be better off road at a 7 level than the CBXRR3, though it may even need some suspension work done to it depending on your weight and how you ride.
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    Hi Wilde - I presume you mean as an 'Adventure bike' ie. a bike you're going to ride on the road to the trails, as well as trails themselves? - if that is the case, then the only real advantage the [stock] DR would have off-road is lighter weight - the CB with a level 2 kit has better quality suspension, similar ground clearance and wheelbase and a wonderfully tractable engine/efi fueling. That said, an upgraded DR is a handy machine as a dual-sport biased ADV bike.

    Jx

    Note. These days Rally-Raid refer to the full +2" suspension and 17/19" wheel kit as Level 2 suspension and wheels (not Level 3).
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  18. tft

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    I have a basically stock cb500x, just some protection and some tkc80's, my buddy was on a stock dr650 with tkc80's.
    We did Big Bend NP together a few months back. The dr650 was faster off-road but I was able to keep up. The cb500x was better on road just like you surmised.
    I am confident that with the rr kit I would have been able to go at a similar speed to the dr off-road. The only think holding me back was the ground clearance.
    All things considered a RRcb500x is a more all around adventure bike.
    If you plan on doing any on-road at all get the cb500x and then upgrade to the RR kit to crush some trails.
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  19. ThirtyOne

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    See if you can ride each. The differences will be immediately apparent.

    Also, try to honestly evaluate how much time you will be on road and how much off road.
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    Check out this mod I saw tonight. I was taking a photo and the owner walked up and I asked him about it. He pulled the front off a CB250 and put this on. Not worried about it getting wet (or dirty I suspect), and it looks pretty rough, but he's happy with the change and better lighting.

    IMG_7206.jpg
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