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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ferdiepick, Mar 18, 2017.
So that's a no?
My blog: www.honda250rally.com
But its a nice BLOG...
No, serious - I think its great.
And I'm not bothering to answer the BS in fridolin's post. He is turning it into a pissing contest. I know I can outbreak the Honda ABS on the AT (that rear brake ABS starts juddering waaaayyyy before the traction loss point) and 250Rally. I can't do it on the Vara (THE DBS_ABS is too good). Someone don't believe me- tough shit. It's the whole TC debate all over again. Lets move on.
If my forum signature containing my blog link is considered to be against the forum etiquette, I will of course remove it. I have however seen similar signs lines containing links to blogs, YouTube channels etc. quite a lot and never heard it is not okay.
My blog: www.honda250rally.com
I have blocked you. Congratulations you are the first person I have ever blocked.
My blog: www.honda250rally.com
they all think they are supirior cos they broke a few collerbones when they were younger ....advanced riders have advanced accedents
cant let any facts get in the way of the truth ....isuspect the non abs bike will be a bit shorter in the gravel but having alot of expiriance on crfs with and without abs i dont think there will be much in it so as most on here i dont know how it will perform so best to actually find out
i think id trust the opinion of the proffesional test rider in the cycle world video than some troll and ill certainly trust me own opinion
there is a option that some silly folks cant uderstand ...thats ride slower and brake ealirer but alpha males with their tiny brains have huge trouble with this concept
kyns your posts are tedious and puerile
Don't know if ABS is a good thing or not.
At our learner course they suggested buying a bike with it if you can, so I did.
In the purchasing process I couldn't find anyone who disagreed.
My mods so far to the Rally:
- full Arrow exhaust system incl. collector
- Hyperpro shock + Hyperpro fork spring
Now it has become a nice bike.
The Rally is the only Japanese dual sport with switchable ABS.
That gives the product a huge reach into riders who spend the vast majority of time on the tar, and want that extra insurance or injury prevention.
That's why non ABS is a deal breaker.
Granted, getting a none ABS is fine if you're a really laid back rider on the tarmac and you spend closer to 50% of your time on the dirt, and if you do not have the cash.
I really like the Rally, but there are about five bikes ahead of her I'd rather buy used than buy a brand new non ABS.
The ABS version goes right to the top, when we are talking brand new.
In general, if ABS can't be turned off, I recommend getting a non ABS. But if your touring bike can have Switchable ABS, that's a easy play call.
I'll be back before new year with this same post, these things come full circle.
Snapper...nice...where is that??
Hi all... so coming back with some photos and info on the rear spring setting to make it harder. I also see in my absence this thread has become an ABS discussion!! Glad I missed it
So i have attached a couple of photos and a video I took with my phone. Without removing the mud flap and rear tyre is the best I could get. I do not have any definitive answer here, but from what the mechanic said and what I think I see in the photo and from the changes in the bike my best guess is as follows:
With this adjustment I have the following Conclusions so far:
Conclusion 1: Bike sits higher
Conclusion 2: Bike sags much much less
Conclusion 3: The adjustment is a simple compression of the rear spring and the top of the spring is set lower down on the shock.
I come to this by the following:
1. The mechanic said the spring had two "rings" that the spring can be set on. He showed me on the bike and pointed to the top of the spring.
2. In the first photo you can see the current setting and if you look above it you can see a shiny bit of steel which could be (?) the original setting. Also at the current setting you can see a disc which sits under a ridge holding the top of the spring in place.
From the above 2 points I am guessing the spring is simply compressed and reset lower down the shock.
I also have the following input from using the bike:
1. When I now put it on my MX stand the stand slides 80% under the bike before it hits the engine guard. Before I had to lean the bike onto the stand to get it under. Seems the bike is higher.
2. Before when I was sitting on the bike I could not have the stand down as the bike sunk and rolled to the right. Same when stopping, I had to stand up to get the stand down as it would hit the ground before being fully extended. Now, I can comfortably sit on the bike and have the stand down. And when I stop I can kick the stand down while sitting (with perhaps a bit of a lean to the right).
3. Visually the bike looks higher (not measured)
4. When I sit on it there is much much less sag. The rear shock now provides resistance.
5. I am further up on my toes when I am sitting on the bike with my feet on the ground.
Unfortunately I havent been offroad on it yet but I think it will be pretty good.
In short, I would highly reccomend this change to your bike. Makes it more like an offroad bike.
If someone more mechanically minded could pick up this thread and provide instructions I think it would be a great addition to the community.
Guys am saying good buy to this thread because as of next Friday I will no longer have my CRF Rally. This summer has been the story of baldilocks and the three bikes. In this summer's search for my perfect offroad bike i have had the CRF250 Rally (baby bike), Honda CRF1000 Africa Twin (papa bike) and the CB500X Rally Raid Level 3 (Mama Bike). Sadly for the other 2 Mama Bike won.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the CRF 250 Rally and have thoroughly destroyed my plastic fairings and wind screens and even bent the tail up 90 degrees through awful offroad riding skills. This thing takes a beating and is a pretty damned good option for a small adventure bike. It can do the highway ok ( a bit loud, a few vibrations and riding over about 120kmph needs downhill and a tail wind), and has been excellent offroad for my type of riding. Also with the altrider luggage is possible to pack for a couple of weeks with tents, cooking gear and the rest. In the end I opted for the CB500x Rally Raid because it is excellent offroad (for my riding ...) and is allot more comfy on the motorway. No disparaging comments on the CRF... it is a 250, that is the nature of the beast.
So in parting here are my mods on the bike:
- tyre change to TK63s. The stock tyres were useless offroard. Filled with mud and poor grip. With the new tyres is a completely different bike.
- changed the rear spring setting to the lower ring so you have a harder rear. This, again, changes the performance of the bike radically
- I installed the DRC Edge 2 tail tidy. Makes the rear higher and out of the way, looks cool too.
- I replaced the stock lights with tiny LED's. Makes the bike looks like a bit weird but keeps the lights out of harms way.
- Bark busters are a must! The stock protectors are only good for wind.
- replaced the plastic base engine guard with a good solid metal one.
- I didnt do this but would seriously consider a head light protector. My headlight got scratched and the lens cannot be replaced the whole headlight unit has to be swapped out which makes it expensive.
- I added the Garmin Montana GPS mounted on the bar behind the windscreen and above the dash. Great position as my eyes never wandered far from the road to read it. You cannot read it while standing... so need to decide what is important.
- I added a cigarette lighter plug to power my air pump in the left rear storage unit. This was a bad place to put it as it is inaccessible when luggage is on the bike. Rally raid have a great mount for the CB500 handlebar which allows two plugs. If something like this was available for the Crf (and it might be), this would be a good addition. On the CB500 I have a plug with two USB sockets on one side and a cigarette socket on the other. I can charge phone and camera through my tank bag, and the socket to plug my tyre pump into is easily accessible. (The GPS holder charges the GPS so no issues there).
- get the altrider horseshoe bags for the bike. They are a near perfect fit.
And voila...you have a damned good adventure bike for pretty low coinage.
As a side note...I traded my CRF for a 1999 Goldwing :) Different bike but loads of fun...and a Honda.
So guys and gals happy riding and thanks for letting me be a part of this community.
Does the exhaust make a bad g diffence I have seen a you tube post stating the 2 brothers exhaust is ok but the full yoshi system gives you a better power curve feel ?
How is the full arrow system ?
What where your thoughts on the Africa twin ?
Hi Ben... I know this is not an AT forum... but.. for me was way too big and unmanageable. I like single trails, steep rocky paths etc.. and this is too much bike for me to handle. Also very heavy if dropped. If the CRF or CB500 is upside down I can still manhandle it upright again. The AT Would be a stretch. The AT is a nice bike and I dont think there is anything bad about it, again, is horses for courses and up to the rider to pick the bike for them. It is probably good for desert riding and open trails, carrying lots of fuel and water etc... but I think (?) for technical riding you need to be very very experienced. Cheers
Glad I picked the rally then. I sold my ktm adv 990 and love the rally for the same reasons as you mention. The ktm was to big. I have had several 690’s and even found them too much ch at times.
Currently putting cash aside for the rear spring upgrade followed by some sort of exhaust although the market is very limited !!
Still at AF does turn my head !!
Interesting Goldilocks metephore.
It's intriguing how the Rally still lost out even though the rider likes technical stuff.
The wheel base on the CB is closer to the 57.3" on the Rally, but the Suspension travel on the Rally and AT
I would narrow it down between the Rally and CB too.
In the end the Freeway comfort won out. 48hp p.twin vs 24hp Thumper. Fair enough.
Liter bikes are designed for the Freeway, Interstate, and Race track.
Unless it is a crusier bike like the SCR950, with just 52 horses or so.
eh? You sure you meant me (/my last pix)? With nothing but asphalt parking lot in view - I don't know/remember
I think what you are missing is that most people have their links in the signature panel which other users are able to view or not view based on their individual settings, you have links BOTH in your signature panel and inserted into the body every post you make (IE the bottom of your post I quoted...). Having the links in the body of every post you make is not cool in my books and reeks of a commercial purpose; that or a desperate need for attention neither of which leads me to lend any credence whatsoever to the poster or their links.
A few people seem to really dislike this guy ? Does it really matter ?
His blog is pretty good surely we could just try ignoring it or just not click on it. Simples !!
Really? Interesting point of view...
Oh it's not quite a liter bike...