HONDA CRF250 RALLY OWNERS

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ferdiepick, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. Boxerbro

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    More feedback on the T63's please, those were the tyres I was going to go with, once I get my bike. I want a good 50/50 tyre, that's good dry and wet tarmac.
  2. Tobias95

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    Just felt like it was fighting the bike. Could have turned in much harder had it allowed the rear wheel to slide a bit. Also the judder on the brake pedal is really off putting!

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  3. Tobias95

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    I've never ridden knobbly tires before, so I may not be able to give great advice, but I've put a few hundred miles on these and done and enduro training day so here's my thoughts. Off road (dry dirt, wet mud, wet leafs) the rear is generally good, the front however washes out easily on the really slick stuff. Was running 15psi in both. On road then grip fairly well and have a nice lean in corners. The edges are bridged or have reinforcements to try and stop them folding which is nice. Grip is nowhere near a full road tire. But plenty for the speed and power of the 250, even on soaking wet tarmac.

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  4. BkADV

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    is it the V SYSTEM? how often do you have to fill the oiler(how many miles)?

    thanks
  5. Ed@Ford

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    As I understand the Rally ABS, wit it OFF, the front would have ABS, the rear wouldn't and could possibly slide some...maybe revisit the "spot" and try again?
  6. minkyhead

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    tyres for a duelsport bike ....the quest continues ..a few of these are o/e fittings which are scrap on arrival

    pirelli m21s are not a bad bet on the crf for dot knob ..they are a much better off road tyre than the t63 for sure

    for long distance id go mitas e09 rear in 130 and 644 front purly because they last very very well and do a decent job in anything but red clay and cambers

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  7. BkADV

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    if i come by your house, what would you give me haha
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  8. minkyhead

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    all of them buddy ..they are all past their best or usless off road in the first place ...i tend to change out when the big block bite starts to diminish ..the 644 is 45 quid so theres no point in trying to get another tenners worth out of it and risk a fall ..thay actually look better in pic than they actually are probably on average 50/60 percent worn or more i change out around 7000 but the rear will go south of ten and the front probably 15 ... but they are noticably past there off road best at 7 loose 40 percent of the block on the front and it will show up and start to warn you when its slippy..so its cheap insurance..not being a drama queen but my logic is 45 quid is better thana broken wrist so i tend to be early rather than late if possible ...you can do your off road trip and the tyres are more than up to the task of the tarmack haul to get me home ..my biggets trip ever was only 6000 miles and to be truthful of late ive been under 3000 for most holidays ..so these tyres are perfect for my duration
    i did albania last year on kenda trackmasters and they were fine but a bit square by the time i got it home ...but the mitas will go probably 2.5 tiimes the distance of the kenda ,,,so troilled the kendas round for 3000 miles and it was dry as witches tit and they wernt needed ....the time before it was as slippy as feck with recent rain ..so put the kenda on and it was overkill ..

    feckin hate tyres..if your guaranteed a bone dry destination its easy ..but the perfect duel sport long distance tyre is a tough call for anyone

    the one thing the crfs have in my expieriance is the ability of its tyres to last twice the distance of a 650 motor so that will be a nice advantage for you... me mate chris on a 650r riding hard can fuck up a e09 in 800 miles so even if i tried i dont think id do that on a crf in less than 5000 ..

    keep well
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  9. BkADV

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    isnt the e09 more aggressive for off roading therefore more wear on tarmac for long distance?

    also what is to expect from the stock rear/front for mileage/wear & tear

    damn did some research and it seems e09 does last long since we only a 250...keep the load down...good more motivation to pack less thanks dude...

    it comes in 130 width( any issues in off road?) i will assume on road it will be fine

    ill grab a E09 when im in germany and finally head east

    now question is ... e09 regular versus dakar version?

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  11. Ed@Ford

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    The AMP mount is very robust. I use it with RAM mount bits, but having a CRF-L I have a ball mount under my left mirror where it screws unto the clutch mount. Still looking for compact device to put a ball onto the crossbar you mention on the Rally that is looming in my future. It's important to utilize the vibration isolation of the RAM system. Go to bigdogadventures dot com to see how he mounted his GPS on his Africa Twin.....not my preference, but one possible method. An early posting here from Thailand I think shows a RAM ball that clamps to the 3/4" crossbar....check RAM's site
  12. minkyhead

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    regular ..there is no difference in wear rate ..its the sidewall stiffness and the honda doesnt need it ..the 130s are asy enought to fit and fix ..they have a reputation for being stiff but its the 140s that earn that reputation they area different animal alltogether ..monterously tight

    .....this is only my expiriance you may hate them ....id buy and stick one on at home to see how it goes ....but for all the dot knobs ive tried and ive tried a few i cant get anything remotly close to the e09 for wear rate ..the e09 front is pants so i wont mislead you on that ... get your suspension tyres luggage sorted and then give it good full braaap shakedown run on multi surfaces over a long weekend ..ride it in allsorts of rocky boggy shite and that will tell you a lot about gearing and tyres ...
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    tyres its so difficult ..very difficult ...but for a aggressive dot tyre that travels well i havnt found anything to beat the 644 and e09 .....its only since ive been using crfs ive been able to dally with full braap knobs as they last twice as long ..so its been quite libertaing in terms of tyre choice ..the kenda would do maby a1000 miles on the 450 it will go 4000 on the crf

    your aim will be to get the most grip for the most milage and id throw the e09 in the mix

    a lot of guys rate mefo explorers k60s catspaw tread tyres but they are only viable on dryer destinations ..but in proper slippy stuff they are usless .of close too it certainly your a huge percentage higher to land on your ass

    anyway good luck in your preperations ..keep us posted
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  13. BkADV

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    you the best bro but was hoping to wear out the stock tires b4 introducing something, ill try to put couple thousand miles on them...hard to get e09 in usa and the ones i find online are all tubeless designed

    ill ship my bike to london and ride to manchester to stay with family for a bit and shop around for for little things ill need to go east. I got family in europe too which ill be staying with couple nights

    also i am DEFINITELY hitting up the nurburgring on this bike haha

    what is the 644 you speak off? mitas? sorry im noob
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    I've used the powered AMP mount on several bikes. The issue with the RAM mounts, I think, is that is puts the GPS far away from the screen. I want the GPS as close to the crossbar as possible.
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  15. minkyhead

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    the 644 is a front .....i live pretty near manchester ...so if you want tyres fitting before you set off send em to our house bob down for a pit stop and ill fit them for you
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    Ill pm you bro once im there..will find out how long stock tires last
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  17. Ed@Ford

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    Yes, I understand (and share) your need. I'd look at touratech mounts for the Montana I assume you have...but expect $$$$ prices
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    Cuttlefish Riding to disappear.

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    Hondo garage squeeze mount. Pricey but even if you drop your bike your GPS/ph isn't going anywhere. IMG_20170313_095909487.jpg
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    Cuttlefish.....WHERE did you get that Hondo Garage Squeeze Mount...and how does it actually mount to the bar ?????
  20. Ed@Ford

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    Cuttlefish: That bikes too DAMN clean! Nice bar setbacks! Did you have to change your flasher for those front LED turn signals?