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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Towjam, Sep 4, 2009.
That's a darned good motorcycle for the money.
Yeah, I paid $ 8700.
Holy Schnikes what a waste of money. Feel better now? Just because the bike prices have gone up considerably, doesn't make it alright that Honda keeps introducing machines at these prices. It also doesn't mean mean that people will pay that much for that bike, especially during these times. As I said before, Honda will sell very few.
Apple sells very few computers... just 7.6% of the market right now, but they are still VERY profitable.
You can sell a lot at very low margins or you can sell just a few at huge margins. Personally, I prefer to stick with the low-margins volume guys, its more consumer friendly IMO. It looks like Honda is aiming for a 7.6% cut w/ 30% "Honda Tax" on each to compensate for lower sales.
I know. I've been watching them for awhile. Its one of the few bikes out there right now that I lust after. There are several used bikes out there with less than 3000 miles for about $5000.
That's some insane depreciation for a quality bike.
Per the wiki: According to Hondas Senior Managing Director, Shigeru Takagi, the new Honda VFR will be introduced in the Fall 2009 and go on sale in Spring 2010. The new VFR will be a 1200cc V-4 and will serve as the company's flagship motorcycle.
Yeah, the depreciation is more than I would have expected.
Not that I am complaining. I wouldn't use the power of the 800cc VFR. What would I do with the power of the 1200cc?
If the rumors/wild-ass wishes are to be believed, the next VFR will have shaft-drive. I'd actually be looking at a VFR if it was a shaftie.
But I have no experience w/VFR800. WeeStrom was too small; my ST was maybe a tad heavy.You might like the 1200; I'm drooling over the NV800 and/or ST1200 - oooooh, the possibilities.
Relatively speaking, today's motorcycles aren't that more expensive when adjusted for inflation, technology, expected serviceable life, and features compared to bikes of yore.
My point was that most people who bought their KLR used 8 years ago might be slightly out of touch with the market- and most manufacturers aren't going to try to float awfully high prices unless it's a true cost, or they think the market will bear it.
People continue to buy R1200Gs's at what might be seen as an outrageous sum. Why is that?
The VFR is a great bike- but people are weird. They'll pay big $$ for a bike with a European nameplate, but somehow feel that despite their deep-rooted knowledge of Honda quality, can't see themselves paying too much for a "Japanese bike". I've seen it- I don't know if it's latent racism, mere snobbery from marketing way back- but I will tell you that the VFR possesses plenty of trick bits- but it's not cruiserish enough, and it's not being ridden by Spies et al. so it's hard to be a poseur. It's simply a decent motorcycle with high build quality- and sadly, it's been a financial downer every time I've stocked them.
Great bike- but sadly ignored by legions of pirates and stuntaz who make up the bulk of the market.
I loved my 1997 VFR (at 1997 VFR prices). However today's VFR's seem a bit pricey to me....
The DV should be a grand cheaper, IMHO and they'd prolly sell a ton of 'em.
that's why honda has accura, toyota has lexus etc.
people only pay so much for a name so they came up with new companies.
maybe that will catch on with japanese bikes one day
yes the wee has some very cheaped out factorty parts to get it at that price point.
adding hardbags alone is $600-800 for good ones.
a shaft drive has to cost $500+
this bike has better fairing & screen.
i think the pricing is very much in line for this bike.
i disagree. i think it's price right & will sell well.
rental companies & older riders alone will use plenty of these bikes.
Its a niche bike with great marketing for the past 20 years so people buy into it. Honda is not a niche bike company, they seemingly are moving more and more into that territory though. I miss old Honda, a good reliable mass produced vehicle with decent performance at an easily affordable price.
And as a frame of reference, so was the GL1500 GoldWing Aspencade.
I'm waiting to see how the VFR(ST?)1200 looks, but I'll test ride both the NT and 1200. Honestly, the NT looks like just about everything I'd need/want, and likely at a heck of a price advantage over the upcoming 1200 V4.
With all that said, it sure is hard to not go grab a CBR1000RR at $6983 as mentioned in another thread. :eek1
Did anybody notice it has a CENTERSTAND?
It baffles me how the US gets a smaller selection of Honda bikes than my tiny country.
I think it may be a stroke of genius when compared in price to the ST and Gold Wing. Bmw seems to sell slow bikes that are underpowered for big bucks and folks eat them up. I wonder about heated grips and accessories for that bike?