Honda Elite 150 - Parts?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Voidrider, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. cstandefer

    cstandefer n00b

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    It has all been epoxied/duct-taped back in under the body where the fastener holes were cracked off. I guess i will compare prices from ebay and that website mentioned a few posts back. I think the only thing im going to replace is the rear left light cover, the rear left cover, and the plastic shield on the front wheel that says Honda on it. I was able to epoxy most of the rear left light cover and the license plate light cover back together. Should run me just short of 200 bucks?
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  2. nsx1pete

    nsx1pete n00b

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    try heating the tire up with a torpedo heater and it will go on much easier
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  3. LibraLabRat

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    I have finally gotten both tires fixed, and all sorts of other odds and ends replaced. IT was a lot easier once I realized that it didnt have to be pretty, as long as it worked and it was safe. As a matter of fact, when I was putting the clutch cover back on, I broke off the one remaining bolt I had...so I simply drilled some new pilot holes, and bolted it back on.

    Thanks for all the help everyone.
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  4. LibraLabRat

    LibraLabRat Rat Rider

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    I got my scooter fully up and running. One thing..my old heat shield on the muffler was about rusted through and clanking, so I took it off. The muffler is fine. Now, I am worried that the rear tire is going to get too hot with constant riding. Is this a legit concern? I took off all the useless plastic body panels, and reworked the turn signals. It runs awesome. I am trying to figure out everywhere it is rattling and squeaking so as to make it run quieter.

    The guys at my local tire shop are more than happy to put new tires on rims for me, since I give them so much business in rubber on my cars. Besides, it showed them that their big tire reseater worked on small tires, and now they do business in motorcycle and scooter tires.

    Unfortunately, most of the scooters turning up out here are Lifan POSs....
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  5. brockster

    brockster Despair & Repair Garage

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    If you smell something like buring rubber after you've parked the Elite, that means it is time to replace your exhaust gasket. The exhaust is leaking where the tailpipe joins the block and it is heating the right sidewall up. The gasket is a $4 part, and you just have to take the exhaust assembly off to get to it. It's a pain if you do not seat the gasket correctly (and get the exhasut aligned against it) because the gasket are NOT reusable. I've tried.
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  6. Motomech

    Motomech Adventurer in Latin Amer.

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    The way I used to remount the mufflers was to stack the new gasket on top of the old one and compress them together. That way, if for some reason there is no new gasket available the next time it's off, it can be remounted without a leak. Eventually, the carbon builds up enough that new gaskets become optional.
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  7. brockster

    brockster Despair & Repair Garage

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    Unfortunately, that will not work on my Elite 150. I also had the brainfart of getting an identically sized washer (as the exhaust gasket) in order to use that steel washer as a permanent gasket.

    That didn't work either.

    Maybe a softer metal (copper gasket?) would compress more and therefore seal better, but my scooter needs other repairs. So I volunteer someone else to do that experiment.
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  8. HandKPhil

    HandKPhil Been here awhile

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    Anyone know the number designation (i.e. GY6, etc.) for the 150cc engine in my '87 Honda Elite 150 (CH150)?

    Thanks,
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  9. Bandit240

    Bandit240 Been here awhile

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    Its a CH150. It doesn't have a number like GY6, thats a chinese thing.
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  10. HandKPhil

    HandKPhil Been here awhile

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    I'm looking for the engine designator.

    Mazda RX-7's used to come with two available engines. One was called the 12A engine (carbureted), and the other was called the 13B engine (fuel injected). My old Toyota Celica engine was known as a 20R motor.

    Honda (and probably all the other motorcycle manufacturers) have similar alpha-numeric designators for their engines. The GY6 line of Honda engines were all single-cylinder, 2-valve engines, air or oil cooled, and they came in 50cc, 125cc and 150cc sizes. The ones that I've seen all seem to have an almost horizontal cylinder, and of course their crankshaft spins a CVT transmission. The cylinder on the engines I've seen are finned.

    My engine sits nearly vertical on the swingarm, the cylinder has no fins (it's water-cooled) and it's 150cc. It too runs through a CVT. Again, my bike is an '87 Elite CH150.

    What I'm looking for is the engine designator number/code, so that I can look up some specific performance mods and parts. I'm having no luck just Googling "CH150 engine", or "Elite 150 engine".

    So is my engine called a K7L engine, or a H1N1 engine, or what? Anyone know?

    Thanks,
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  11. Bandit240

    Bandit240 Been here awhile

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    I know about engine model numbers, i also tinker with Datsuns and all the engines are named with letters and numbers. Ive got an A14 in my 210 wagon, L20b in my 620 truck and an extra L16 sitting in the shed.

    Well my service manual doesn't say anything about a model number for the engine. The emissions sticker on my bike says the engine family is GHN015341A9. I don't think there is a specific model number or name for the engine other than a CH150.

    I would guess that some GY6 parts will fit the Elite engine since alot of china parts are sold on ebay for the CH150 or GY6. My own Elite sports a chinese carb for a GY6. Rollers, clutch shoes and belts for a GY6 work for the CH150 engine.
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  12. techguy

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    Seems like this should have been a stand alone thread... but... I think You can determine the Engine style number by looking at the center portion of the part numbers. The one that is most common in the parts catalog or on the engine block parts should be what you are looking for. It may aven be stamped on the block as someone suggested.
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  13. tcjames.yu

    tcjames.yu Adventurer

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    That's right, Gy6 is a later design of Honda scooter, CH150 is KJ9/KN7 engine type.
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  14. Bandit240

    Bandit240 Been here awhile

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    I never though of it before, but KN7 would be right. Almost all parts for the engine that i buy from honda have a number starting in KN7.
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  15. brockster

    brockster Despair & Repair Garage

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    That heat sield, I think is more for stylishness (or not) than function.

    I've run over 200-300 miles without a functioning exhaust gasket. There is one in there, but its blown. I get the hot rubber-tire smell. But I haven't seen any signs of impending tire explosions yet.

    :huh

    Maybe I'd better check that out.

    Also, for those of you having difficulty mounting scooter tires - they are more difficult than mounting motorcycle tires.
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  16. Qingdao

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    I'd be more concernd with a lean condition. My $.02

    The GYs is just a number. China took a lot of designs from 70's model Hondas; all of them are labled "GY". For instance the GY-5 is the same as the XR200. (with a different bore and stroke)
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  17. brockster

    brockster Despair & Repair Garage

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    Good point.

    I hadn't thought of a lean condition - though how would that work, the gasket being downstream of the carb and cylinder?

    It's all academic at the moment. I got reconnected with the Elite Sunday evening, changed it's oil and put a new gasket in. Now I need to get a battery to see if anything else electrical is wonky - I think it needs a new or good used stator. It's cheaper than buying another scooter.

    Do not put two trickle chargers on a battery at the same time and expect it to NOT fry your battery. Lesson learned.
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