Honda Forza 300

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by DOUBLE-O G, Jan 5, 2013.

  1. Dabears

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    A lot of us thought it was an obvious move by Honda to bring the SH300i to the US. Never happened.

    The Forza could provide some good competition in that 250-350cc sweet spot if they opted to bring it here.

    The ABS would be tempting, but alas, it seems to keep the pricing points down scooters seem to come here without it.

    I'm not a fan of the styling, but in fairness I'd have to try the seating position before I would dismiss it.

    As CDWISE said it's just nice that there's another scooter that could someday make it's way here.
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  2. Chillis

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    I think is looks good(except for the handlebar). Kind of like a scaled down DN01.

    A little more windshield and a nice highway cruiser you would have.

    Any idea what the rocker switches next to ignition are?
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  3. tastroman

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    Looks like it would lack upper body weather protection which is one of the primary reasons I choose a scooter over a motorcycle for commuting. I'm not a fan of the looks either but then again my Daelim looks like dog crap and I bought it.
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  4. wannabe1

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    Givi amongst others, will remedy that quickly. Very few bikes/scooters leave the showroom with adequate setups.
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  5. gumshoe4

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    I agree with Gore-TX regarding the handlebars. I like that they are not covered...makes it easier to mount GPS and other ancillary items on the bike...
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  6. Chillis

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    There is the utilitarian aspect of naked bars but they starkly contrast the big body execution of the bike. Thankfully they are not chrome!
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  7. DOUBLE-O G

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    I take you're not a big fan of the Reflex Sport then?
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  8. Cortez

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    The seat can be modified at 10 places in the middle of nowhere Croatia
    just in the city where I live so..

    And it fits me just fine at 5'11".

    +1 for the People 300, it's a lot roomier (then everything else in it's class too).

    I like this new Honda.. but other then holding the value better then a Kymco,
    I also doubt it'll do anything much better.

    The DT could use more "comfort" and a bit smoother clutch, so there's
    something to improve on.
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  9. InlineSkate

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    Even it did come here. It sucks how modified US model Honda's come in terms of lights. They do little to change the lighting. They simply slap on protruding ambers and leave the original sockets bare.

    I imagine this is more due to regulations but it seems like they could do something more cosmetically pleasing.
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  10. Paul Mihalka

    Paul Mihalka Old Fart

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    For us old guys a big plus on a scooter is the step-through. I wouldn't want it higher than my Majesty. The Forza looks quite a bit higher.
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  11. vader1

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    From the spec sheet it is down 20cc's but I am sure the Honda wizards have it making as much or slightly more power than the Kymco. It is quite a bit heavier though and unless it puts out lots more power, will probably be slower.

    I love Honda products, and they are bullet proof. But I also love my Downtown 300. I paid the dealer $4600 for the bike plus tax title and $0 prep. It is quicker than most people think and has returned a steady 75 mpg per tank and I have the throttle pinned every time I accelerate just for giggles.

    The seat could be a little better, maybe improve the shocks a little and the dashboard is on the boring side, but it looks great and is an awesome reliable machine.

    The Honda looks nice but would not make me trade the Kymco. And as a second scooter in the garage, the new Piaggio 300 Maxi looks better to me and adds some nice features like traction control.
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  12. Cortez

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    It's 24.3 hp at 8250 revs.
    I've found 194kg dry (428lbs) on one site.

    The Downtown is rated anywhere from 29.5hp (Europe)
    to 32hp (Taiwanese version) at 8000 revs and is around 395lbs.

    That's 21% more power and 7-8% less weight.

    The Kymco People 300 is even more interesting in this comparo with
    the same engine as the Downtown but at 28hp, but it's only 363lbs dry.

    The stock People 300 will run away from the DT300 from 0-60mph
    (stock takes 10 seconds with my fat ass on board (200lbs+), and DT300
    took around 11 before mods).

    Even with 33,3hp the Piaggio BV350 isn't any faster to 60mph.
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  13. vader1

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  14. John Bentall

    John Bentall Been here awhile

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    Cortez, The Honda Italy web site gives the dry weight of the Forza as 175.4kg and the wet weight as 194kg.
    That is 24kg more (no surprise there) than my SH300i ABS but also 4.5 less BHP.

    John
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  15. DOUBLE-O G

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  16. Cortez

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    If that's wet, then it's about the same as the DT300.
    DT has a 1 liter bigger fuel tank.

    Really looks great, but it'll probably cost as much as the new Xciting 400 here (36hp).

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  17. DOUBLE-O G

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    Can you not jack up every thread with your Kymco Downtown? I get it. You're excited about your own scooter. May be you need to start your own thread...
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  18. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    :huh
    Other then the quoted picture not being a Downtown, I was not the one
    who brought the Kymco comparison into this thread. You might wanna
    check the first page of the thread.

    I'll wait around.
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  19. tastroman

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    That's what made me part way's with Honda in 2007. I really wanted a SH300 but since Honda pays little attention to the mid sized scooter market here in the states, I ended up with a Daelim. To bad because I was a Honda fan boy but now having been exposed to my Daelims KYMCO motor and drive train I would not hesitated to pull the trigger on a KYMCO when the time comes.
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  20. DOUBLE-O G

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    Video is kinda gay but, hey, it's Honda Thailand so...

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