honda moly 60

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  1. cardoctor1

    cardoctor1 Been here awhile

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    getting ready to split my r1150gs to repair a seeping trans input seal
    when i stopped at the honda dealer the parts guy suggested i add another type of grease with the moly when i do my spline lube but didnt have specs for the additive.
    looking for suggestions moly only or ?
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  2. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    NLGI II, Lithium soaped, moly fortified grease is what you need for splines on the BMW. Most folks use the Honda Moly paste 60. I've not heard of a grease cocktail being used.
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  3. tps

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    I've always done 50/50 Honda Moly and Marine Grease. I believe it was Tom Cutter that told me to mix 50/50 a few years ago.
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  4. cardoctor1

    cardoctor1 Been here awhile

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    thanks ill have to pull my old merc out drive stuff out of the attic.
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  5. IKIGAI

    IKIGAI Been here awhile

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    Don't use the grease; use the paste.

    Moly grease has too much carrier and not enough moly.
    An FD has more compression / shearing, and heat -- not the same as a plain bearing surface

    Honda Moly 60 contains 60% moly, and will adhere to the contact surfaces better/longer.

    I've used moly grease liberally on a ST1300 in a pinch and on the next tire change, there was none, well none on any of the gear face contact surfaces.
    Wrong product for the application -- go with the paste!
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  6. skydivegazoo

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    I know the Honda ST1300 drive splines can be trouble if the wrong lube is used and the bike is ridden hard. Many of the guys on the ST1300 forums have also had BMW's and most use Honda Moly Paste on them as well.

    If you always take it easy, you could probably get away with less....

    The only thing that matches Honda Moly Paste for specs is Loctite Moly Paste http://www.henkelna.com/industrial/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797877698561
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  7. UtahSooner

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    Paul Glaves swears by Guard Dog Moly grease. ( http://guarddogmoly.com/gd525.shtml ). I've always used Honda Moly-60, but last time I used Guard Dog. I'll pull the transmission this winter and see if it's better.
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  8. BluByU

    BluByU Been here awhile

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    Honda Molly 60 :deal

    Sticka well and lasts
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    Tungsten disulfide?

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=600536&page=6
    see #82
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  10. RAL88

    RAL88 Marineboy

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    I mix Tungsten disulfide with Wurth Sig 3000.
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  11. going south

    going south hero & Zero...

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    That is what we use on all the high speed shafting on the boat where you can see it working/sticking... and there's lots of it.
    pretty neat stuff... its what I use...
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  13. mjydrafter

    mjydrafter evil boy for life

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    +eleventy-billion (and the other guy that said it first:D)

    Guard dog.

    I used the moly 60 on my k75 back in May, I pulled it back apart in September to do it right with the GD. After it started shifting hard. No problems since and she shifts like butter.

    I think the H m60 is too thin and squeezes out of the splines. The GD is very tenacious.:deal

    I found some products that might be better, but they were stupid $ and came in gallons... If a guy could get some samples... This stuff was like NASA grade and NASA price point.
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  14. the_gr8t_waldo

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    it's my understanding that honda has stoped supplying this lube to it's dealers.. if you happen across a dealer that has some still on the shelf, buy! if you can't find honda 60 molly the only alt is to hunt online for 60% molly-not easy when last i tryed( unless if you can use a 5 gallon bucket). but there were a few out there. setteling for the molly found at most places is asking for trouble in such a "high pressure" application i mixing with marine grease will only reduce it's effectiveness-imho
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  15. Twilight Error

    Twilight Error Going nowhere slowly

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    McMaster-Carr to the rescue. Kind of.

    PN 9456K6 is, according to the MSDS, a TS Moly-Lubricants product that contains 70% moly. An 8oz container is $35. But if Honda Moly 60 isn't readily available anymore...
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  16. disston

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    Waldo,

    What sort of source do you have for this rumor? Just how reliable do you think this info might be? Doesn't mean there's no truth to this but there is currently lots of HM60 on the Web.
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    Thanks t.e. I,m going to service my own st1100 drive shaft, sometime this winter,and in the eternal search for reliability, I'll be trying that 70percent stuff. And for the record, I def. won't be mixing anything into it! As for rumors, I got this from the st forum...I already have a fair amount on my shelf so I haven't bothered to ask at my local supplyer. So, it could well be a rumor. Disston, you'll just have to trot down to your local dealer and find out for yourself.. It remains to be seen, just what Honda endorsed mech's will use in it's place.
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  18. CRASHDADDY

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    FYI- A couple years ago i purchased a large container (5LB?) of Moly dry lube from Mc Master-Carr or MSC, with the intent of concocting a high zoot moly grease for my BMW drive splines. The container arrived with an MSDS safety sheet and a number to call for tech assistance. As i recall it was manufactured by Bel-Ray, or maybe Castrol. Well just for the heck of it i called CS and was put on the line with a chemist/engineer. After explaining my plan of attack, he told me they absolutely would NOT recommend that. The short explaination being that a lot of engineering goes into the blending/compatability of a moly grease or oil. He explained that the powdered moly i bought was designed for dry stamping of sheetmetal parts and not as an additive. Basically he said what i was attempting was a waste of money. Since then i found several manufacturers of Extreme Pressure Moly grease, Valvoline from Napa being one. Motul makes a nice pinion/final drive oil with a moly additive too.
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  19. bemiiten

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    RE Mixing lubricants
    Amazing how many around here believe they can mix different lubricants and come up with something better then the manufacturer. :rofl
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  20. CRASHDADDY

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    ZAKLY! Anybody want to buy an un-opened 5lb container of Bel-Ray Molylube? :evil
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