Honda NC700XD - DCT - Dual Clutch Transmission review

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Lars1974, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. Jausch

    Jausch n00b

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    Please keep filling us in on all of your opinions and experiences on this bike. I am very seriously considering picking one up this summer if I can sell my current bike. How does the weight feel different with the tank placement? Is it any less fun to ride with the paddles? Etc etc etc

    Thanks for the thread.
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  2. Lars1974

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    Thanks and here is another quick update.

    I am nearing getting the second tank empty and will fuel up tomorrow morning. I guess consumption will have been a bit worst now after I have free'd the exhaust! I will post the mpg figure tomorrow.

    As for the weight balance i did not tice this at all, but the bike is light anyway!
    Its definetely fun with to use the paddles....i mainly ride in D-mode and use the paddles if i want to overtake or sometimes just before a bend to get better engine braking and more power to get back out....its great fun!

    I love the DCT over the manual! It gives this bike such a wide range of riding varities, from auto mode just commuting to almost playstation like fun!

    Try it outbut make sure you go for a proper test ride not just 10 miles.
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  3. Lars1974

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    update:

    this morning i filled up to the second time. this tank was emptied without the db-killers in the Akrapovic exhaust. i was riding in D-mode but pace a bit quicker than the first tank and i shifted down with the paddles often too...

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    so impact on fuel is very little.

    the next (3rd) tank i will ride in S-mode only. lets see what that does to the fuel economy. i shall report.

    thanks
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  4. Toto

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    I also think the DCT is a good tranny choice for this engine given the narrow rpm band...have fun!
    BTW I am going for a ride at the end of the month at the local Honda test ride program on the DCT VFR1200....
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  5. Lars1974

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    Update:

    With the sun finally out today was a day of riding! It start this morning in going for a breakfast run with my mate Dan, who had brought his newly acquired Aprilla Tuono V4 down and I took the CB1000R to be able to keep up...also the new set of tyres needed scrubbing in anyway...

    Here are the beast at our breakfast stop:

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    I had a ride on the Tuono and its a great package! Stonking engine and superb super bike chassis handling...

    But now back to the NC. This afternoon i took the NC for another spin up towards Oxfordshire. Traffic going into Henley was manic, so i stop and took a pic.

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    Than i headed further up north before needing to fuel up having done the 200.2mls - all in S-mode! The bike took 13.12l with is just under 70mpg or 4.07l / 100km. So there is almost No difference in fuel consumption between D and S mode!

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    And here the fuel pump reading

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    I also did give the bike a clean last Friday so that its back to almost new bike shine...

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    And finally i got anther picture done in Henley on my return... With the Thames River behind the bike.

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    Anyway, thats me up to 600 miles on the NC and i have it booked in for its first service this coming Friday.

    Let the sun keep shining and Spring is finally here!
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  6. Lars1974

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    Update:

    This morning I clocked over the 1000 mile mark = just after having to stop at the Datchet railway crossing. With the barrier down I had a chance to take a quick pic with my phone...

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    Shortly after I fill up my 5th tank and its amazing that even with high petrol prices I am able to cover 1000 miles for just over £87 in Fuel (€103 or $135)!

    here is an update on the fuel consumption. its all pretty much the same for every tank.

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    The bike has performed faultless - as expected! The DCT is great and I still much prefer it over the manual option.

    I look already forward to the next 1000 miles!

    Thanks
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  7. Just Plain Bill

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    I have a little experience with a 2006 FJR1300AE electronic clutch model (no automatic shifting at all) and learned that it wouldn't let me shift into neutral until the bike was at a standstill. My habit when coming to a stop has always been to pull the clutch as I neared the place I intended to stop (10 to 20 feet away) and use the brake to finalize the stop as I shifted into neutral or first. With the electronic clutch remaining engaged, in close traffic or in the garage, stopping points were rather unpredictable, since the bike wanted to continue forward until it reached at point the computer decided engine speed and forward motion made for a good time to halt. It was a distraction.

    What I'd like to know Lars, is whether the dual clutch transmission permits manually selecting neutral before coming to a stop -- or, when in Automatic mode, if it either coasts or free wheels as it slows?

    Thanks,

    Bill
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  8. Lars1974

    Lars1974 Been here awhile

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    I have nit tried that Bill. Only ever selected neutral when stop, but i will try and report....although not a for a few weeks as currently i am using a Crossrunner as my colleague borrowes my NC700
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  9. mrbreeze

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    put me on the list of DCT lovers! I got to ride one of these the other day, and it was awesome! I think we will be seeing this on a lot of bikes soon. At least I hope that by the time I get ready to buy another bike, it is at least an option.
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  11. clammer14

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    I just passed 1900 miles on my manual transmission NC.
    I have recently started getting between 69 and 74 mpg.
    It got between 62 and 66 from 0 to about 1500 miles.
    The engine is breaking in nicely. The only things I am not crazy about the bike are no adjustment on the front fork, brake pads, and the exhaust sound off idle.
    Handles great in the twisties, the stock Metzelers are OK, but I already have Continental Road Attacks to spoon on. I run 34 psi front and 36 psi rear.
    I have had a number of BMW's as recent bikes, but I find this bike is a real hoot on regular gas at 74 mpg.
    Peter
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  12. zanadu

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    Thanks for the updates, interesting thread.
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  13. joe camarda

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    Hope to keep this thread alive! :clap

    I'm looking to buy the NC700X, but haven't quite decided yet between the two models. Its a tough call! :ear
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  14. Just Plain Bill

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    This may not give you the answer you need, but it's the best thing I've seen yet on the NC700X models (and one of the best Cycle World "reviews" I've ever seen)
    http://www.cycleworld.com/nc700xadventurechallenge/

    Bill
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  15. Lars1974

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    update:
    I am now up to 2400 miles and everything is working as it should...
    MPG is constantly around 70mpg.

    I will do a proper review when i get to 3k miles...
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  16. Lars1974

    Lars1974 Been here awhile

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    hi all,

    This morning I clock'd over the 3000 mile mark on the odometer of the NC700XD and therefore I will do bit of the report of the last 3k miles.

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    I receive the bike mid March and its been my main mode of transport ever since. My daily commute takes me 40 miles through the heart of Berkshire countryside. As a commuting tool I value the NC very highly. Not only does it provide great road presence and decent weather protection also the storage compartment has been in use daily and proofed to be 100% watertight. Fuel consumption has been very steady at around 70mpg or just under 4l/100km pretty much regardless of driving style. The Akrapovic exhaust has not made a negative impact on fuel at all.

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    Over the time I have found myself mainly using D-mode and the shifters for downshift before Roundabout, corner or when overtaking. I am now used to the early up-shifts in D-mode and I love the rumbling sound coming from the pipe at low rpm 2-3k rpm range...

    Looking at the tyres after 3k of UK Road abuse - I am very happy to see that they are about 50% worn with still plenty of life left. In the dry the grip is great and you can wear them right towards the edge. In the wet I dont like them that much and I sometimes feel grip being lost, but I have not had any heart stopping moment - so it may just be my sensing. Anyway, tyres are lasting very well and thats a great thing.

    here is pic of the rear

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    and here one of the front tyre

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    I had no defects or any other maintenance issues other than the 600 mile 1st service. The bike is not using any oil - so i dont need to fill up. Chain has not needed any adjustment either.

    So if you are looking for an easy to ride, hasslefree bike - this is it.

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    DCT is perfect too.. I am loving it!

    Thanks Lars
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  17. bryantjt

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    My girlfriend's father just passed 2600 miles on his 700xd and is consistently getting 70-80mpg. We rode 160 miles on Sunday and when he filled up, 86mpg for the day. We were riding around the Adirondacks, 50-60 mph most of the time.

    His only complaint is that it runs "rough", that this is a constant shake to it. He has said the same thing about both of his chinese scooters, his TU250X and the 700. I think it is mainly that he doesn't realize how rough our roads are compared to when riding in a car :rofl I've ridden all of the machines and don't notice anything any different than when riding my Vstrom.

    The 700 does however get into top gear at just above 35mph so it does lug a little bit but he refuses to click it down or use sport mode so I give up.
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  18. Oceanbum

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    That explains why he's getting 86mpg.:lol3
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  19. Bert Fox

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    I am 60 and been riding since the 60s. I have a prosthetic left leg and I see the DCT as my answer to still riding. I do ride my 2010 KLX 250S on dirt roads, but I need something for the freeways here in NE Nevada. I hope to buy one next year. Thanks for posting the feedback.
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  20. trainman

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    I've been reading all the post on the NC700X DCT ABS models and I think the bike is what I'm looking for. At 68 and having had some 40 plus bikes and 45 years of riding bikes, this could just be the answer and replacement for my 650 V-Strom. I wouldn't be getting rid of the V-Strom for any others reason them this bikes with the six speed auto trans just sounds like something I would like to try at my age. Wish we had the Integra model here in the US, I like the bigger fairing, windshield, and other features of the bike, but for now we don't have it. I personally wouldn't be interested in the standard 6-speed model, just because it's too close the 650 V-Strom and a bike change would not be of interest to me, but the auto trans model is, just because I've never had one before.

    John
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