Honda PCX 150 or SYM HD 200 ?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by brian72, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. brian72

    brian72 URBEX

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    That Yamaha sure looks nice.

    I like the TU250 also. It was the price and timing that lead me to the CB250.

    Still, I'd really rather be on a 150cc-400cc scooter with 16" wheels.
  2. bravada

    bravada Been here awhile

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    Isn't the HD200 considered a large frame bike?

    I have had a small frame Vespa (LX150) and would have appreciated a tad more room. In sitting on both the PCX150 and the HD200 I like the fit of of the HD...while the PCX seems like a smaller framed machine.

    One thing I would like to know about the HD 200 is what are cold weather starts like. My LX had an electric choke and always started. My Ninja 500 r with a manual choke starts very hard if at all sub zero temps. The coldest ride ( on the LX)I ever went on was at 10*F. So how goes the HD200?

    Regarding carbs vs FI I agree that FI is better. I never had carb issues because every fill up had a shot of Sea Foam and Star Brite Star Tron.
  3. blugg1

    blugg1 Been here awhile

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    I have a 2012 HD200 and I live in the mountains in Southeastern Arizona. Elevation at my house is 5500 feet. It occasionally gets into the low teens in winter. Mine always starts instantly. It's been de-smogged but I have no idea whether that affects cold weather starts.

    It's a dependable and peppy scooter. I use Seafoam.
  4. Dabears

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    Mine starts fine in weather far colder than anything I prefer to ride in. FI is indeed fantastic, but don't let that be your stumbling block if the HD200 ergonomics suit you.
  5. pnw

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    For what it is worth ootscoot (if I lived in S. Cal. I would buy from him, he is the most genuinely helpful dealer I have ever head of - has anyone bought from him?) on the SYM forum indicated that the 2016 HD200 will have fuel injection. It wouldn't make much difference to me, I doubt that could make the HD run much better than it does with a carb. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in a scooter that doesn't have a flat or near flat floor board.
  6. frog13

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    Search the flea market.
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    If it gets FI, that will be great!

    Carb and parts scarcity were why I took it off of the list when looking for a scoot.
  8. Phipsd

    Phipsd Older but not wiser.

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    The SYM Citycom is a nice bike, a roomy comfortable bike with good weather protection, good handling and 16 inch wheels. A michelin CityGrip on the front, greatly improved the handling, EBC organic pads on the front fixed a weak feeling brake that is now solid and strong, and a 14ah AGM battery made for a much more reliable bike. It's not really a powerful bike, but once well broken in it's quick off the line and up to 55 mph or so. SYM quotes a top speed of 130 kph or 81 mph in human:) 65mph is a comfortable run forever cruising speed. At 33000 km mine is stock and very reliable.
  9. 87112

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    Any one have any intel whether the 2017 will be FI? I almost put a deposit on a 2016 for 4050 OTD but stopped when I found out it was carbs not FI.
    I loved how it rode during the test rode, one word- awesome. Read a review where someone said its like a motorcycle stuffed in a scooter, thats how the powerband and sound felt to me. Like a 171cc motorcycle.
    I ride a PCX 125, love it but not the limitations of 125cc. Its quick enough off the line but 30-55 is not its best.
    Last night, I was on the HD200 forums and its seems the bike has more issues than any Yamaha or Honda scooter out right now. I don't like anything out there but the HD200. Should I hang on for a FI model and a redesign?
  10. pnw

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    It seems like some people have no issues and others do. Maybe some of the problems are caused by the users, but maybe not. I bought my '12 as new old stock in 2015 and it has been trouble free but I did put a manual fuel shut off valve between the tank and the stock vacuum petcock just to be safe. I doubt if fuel injection means trouble free and it might be more expensive to repair than a carb. I only have a couple thousand miles on mine including rides of more than 350 miles in a day but I don't see the need for fuel injection on this scooter.

    I'm in the process of clearing out my garage and would sell mine for half or less than that new bike. Like most scooters they don't hold their value but buying used you don't always know what you are getting (until it is too late).
  11. 87112

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    Are you in the Pacific Northwest? I am in Seattle for a bit, do you plan to list your HD on CL if that is the case. Is the 12 HD the same as the 15 HD which I test rode yesterday. You might have a buyer here.
  12. pnw

    pnw Been here awhile

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    I live in Washougal which is on the Columbia River just east of Vancouver/Camas WA, a little less than 200 miles from Seattle. I haven't listed it because if I still have it in '18 I was going to take it on the Scooter Cannonball. If you are in the area and want to take a look let me know. if you do a search of the site with my handle it brings up some pictures and ride reports.
  13. pnw

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    The '12 should be same as the '15, I think since '09 the only change was disc brake in rear in 2010.
    Mine has a new lead acid battery and I also have a WPS brand lithium battery, windscreen, top box and a new spare belt.
  14. pnw

    pnw Been here awhile

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    This is why I need to get rid of stuff

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    Buy used. Don't spend 4K on a SYM. PNW's would be a good deal. I have the same year but flat black.

    Great scooter. Don't wait for FI; the carb models are fine. Just know dealer support ain't like owning a Honda.
  16. 87112

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    Trying to make it work out. You are right buy used is way to go. I got my Pcx used.
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    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    wow....a 171 FI? ....... game changer!
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    In what way? FI?

    I'd buy pnw's for 1/2 price with a spare belt, windscreen, and top box.
  20. 87112

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    I am a bit confused SYM says its a new redesigned bodywork but in this video dating 2012 its shows having the 2017 bodystyle.