Honda PCX: coming to the US

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by cogitate, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. LarryRickenbacker

    LarryRickenbacker Been here awhile

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    On good roads, the PCX will be a winner. Here on Louisiana's rutty thoroughfares, I'm nervous about that skinny front tire. If i still lived on the Texas side of the "line", I'd probably get a PCX.
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  2. btcn

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    If you think that would be bad, try an Elite 150! This thing is great on almost all roads, but on really rutty shitty roads, it handles horrible. It has very small wheels. The ruts through it all over the road. Like there is a section of a 2 lane 55 MPH highway that I commute on and I hate this little section of the road. It is so uneven that it would make a dirt bike wobble around.

    I know how uneven your roads must be out there! So just look into the bigger wheeled scoots with good suspension, and you will fine. OR have you considered a motorcycle since it seems you already have a scoot? No scoots have real real wide tires. Maybe take a look at the Yamaha TW 200? Damn big wheels, and a load of fun!
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  3. LarryRickenbacker

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    BTCN: As much as I'm embarrased to admit, I've never learned to shift gears! I no longer own a scooter. Since I've no desire to get on the freeway, I've never seen the need to learn how to upshift/ downshift, find neutral on a motorcycle.
    Given my limited choices and budget, it looks like Yamaha's Zuma 125 is my most logical option. What I miss most about my old Daelim S2-125 was simply riding it home from work. My scooter brought some fun to otherwise humdrum commuting and errand-running.
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    Well, sounds like a Zuma will do fine for you. As long as you don't need to hop on the highway, the Zuma is perfect. It is reliable and Fuel Injected. As much as many people may try and argue about how carburetors are better, they are not. The last car with sold in the USA with carburetors was the 1990 Subaru Justy. Every car with a gas engine produced after that here are Fuel injected.

    The Zuma, like most motorcycles uses Throttle Body Induction Injection. This is not quite as good as more recent Multi Port Fuel Injection, but it works very well. Carburetors were not bad, its just that fuel injection has many many more advantages. EFI just gives a very precise, strong air/fuel mixture. It is great! When you go WOT, the ECU precisely injects the correct amount of extra fuel and air into the engine. And best of all, no re-jetting, ever! Just remapping the Fuel map is necessary when doing performance mods to the engine, which is easy. So this is a huge advantage with the zuma.

    The only thing that the Zuma really lacks in technology is Liquid Cooling. It uses forced air cooling, which gets the job done, but liquid is far superior. With water cooling, the engine will last longer, and WOT riding hurts much less. But the zuma has a good forced air cooling system.

    But overall, the Zuma is an awesome scoot. I think you will enjoy it, as long as you have no need to comfortably cruise at much over 50 MPH.
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  5. siyeh

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    Ok who has bought one of the things? Stopped at a Honda dealer today to kick some tires and salesman told me they would NOT come off MSRP. "not with the gas prices we expect"

    He did not have a clue as to the real life top speed. Anyone here know?
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    I am not 100% sure, but based on my knowledge a PCX 125 should top out at 60 MPH regularly and see upwards of 64-68 MPH if pushed with a full tuck. Not bad for a 125 cc scooter, actually about the same as your average 150 cc scooter
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  7. flatboarder

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    Max 95km/h GPS Euro version
    Cruising speed 80-90 km/h GPS
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  8. siyeh

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    Thanks for the mph info. I am in the market for a scoot. I do have blessing from wife. I have narrowed it down to 3 models.

    Sachs MadAss 125

    Kymco Agility 125

    Honda PCX

    I am an old Honda guy-have owned a dozen- the PCX looks sweet.

    I need to test ride all 3 when the weather warms up here.
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  9. SPOFF

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    I've been looking at the PCX. On the U.S. version, even though the flashers are on stalks, the lenses above the headlight are still there. I'm wondering if the plastic socket castings for the overseas directionals are still there behind the lenses. Looks like a great location for a pair of HID driving lights. :D Or at a minimum a pair of LED accent lights.
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  10. LarryRickenbacker

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    Siyeh: Of the three scoots you listed, I'd get the Honda PCX. Resale value would be better with the Honda, then of course there's the out-of-this-world mpg.
    I was considering the PCX when a very lightly used Honda Sh150i popped up "used" at my Honda dealer. As long as you've got decent roads, the PCX should be a winner over any other 125. Good luck!
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    Yes, it is one of the faster 125s. It looks much cooler than most scooters with it's sports bike styling as well. It is also priced reasonably, unlike most Hondas.
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    Has anyone bought one yet? Riding impressions? Mpg?
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  13. flatboarder

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    Full throttle riding over long distance will result in approx. 3l/100km.

    Click MGP icon below!
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    0 - limiter, full throttle:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSUXYiAILrg
    (initial noise is a chainsaw, not the PCX)

    In case you like to use google translate:
    click my PCX page

    Phil
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    I tried to buy a PCX 2 weeks ago. Dealer here in snowy Wisconsin, would not let me take a test ride. In fact, he did not even have batteries installed in ANY of his scooters. oh well

    BTW his bottom dollar 'winter special' was $3000 plus tax, title, and license,,,,
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  15. SPOFF

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    Not a bad price. Not sure why he wouldn't let you expose HIS scooter to ice, snow, sand, and SALT. :D
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    True, but its not a special price either. That would run around $3,300 OTD, maybe less or more. The PCX is a fine looking machine, but don't let the looks fool you, it still has a 125 cc motor under there!

    It is supposed to do around 66 MPH indicated, or maybe 60-63 MPH actual. Not a bad speed, actual pretty good for a 125, but for the price its not tooooo impressive!

    But I'll tell you, a 60 MPH top end will NEVER be enough for most. I find a 70-75 MPH top speed on a small scooter to be ideal. Enough to sneak on the highway, but plentiful for backroads and everywhere else.

    Go on Craigslist and get a Burgman 400 for $3,000. MAYBE even less if you are good at talking them down! Sure its used, but 105 MPH is a plus and all the other benefits of a Maxi. I am unlikely to buy a new scooter unless it is unique or something, because I sure don't mind paying less for a great quality scooter. Even used, the Burgman 400 is very very likely to outlast a Honda PCX. Less maintenance, more power, more capabilities.

    If you have NO reason and don't wish for anything over 125, then the PCX is a great little scoot. If your looking for a 125 for an ok price then the PCX is good. It is a higher end 125 with liquid cooling and EFI. And it is faster than most 125 cc scooters. But if your looking for the best bang for your buck, a used scoot is the way to go.
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  17. siyeh

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    Or maybe it's because you are just too cheap :D

    I been buying motorcycles for 37 years and the ONLY

    thing they all had in common is each one has had a big fat

    ZERO on the odometer. My scoot purchase will be the same,,,,
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  18. btcn

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    True, I don't have the money to go throw $10,000+ into a new bike, or $5,000 on a scooter. I DO however, have the cash to buy a 2005 Sportster 1200 for $3,000=$5,000, or $2,700 for a Burgman 400.

    I have bought new motorcycles before, but used motorcycles, espically ones from a dealer with a warrenty serve me just fine. I can find a used bike with very few miles that will go just as long. BUT I am far more hesitent to buy an old used motorcycle for personal use, because you know they are more likely to have trouble. You do generaly have to throw a wad of cash into all the basic parts to keep them going.

    But I have no problem buying a 2005 Burgman 400 for $2,700!

    Yes, I may be cheap but I can buy a lot of bikes! Sometimes I love me a brand new bike, but used bikes sure have their place with me!
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  19. LarryRickenbacker

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    Should this Summer's gas prices go higher than some of us are anticipating, the PCX could prove as elusive as tickets to a 'Stones concert in '72!
    Were I in a speculative mood, I'd say that the PCX and Zuma 125 could wind up selling like crazy by July 4th of 2011. Again, just let gas hit a good $4.50 in the northeast. My 2 cents.
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    Not really. Many other 125ccm 4 stroke scooters are going considerable faster due to 14 or 15HP compared to 11,7 at the PCX. Topspeed is not a major argument for a PCX:
    However, I can tell, the PCX rides really well, especially due to its smooth and light running engine, feeling stronger than it actually is. Also due to its lightweighted medium size chassis (50kg lighter than comparable 125cc EFI 4 stroke scooters as like Kymco, Yamaha and others). It feels very easy going, accelerates well and smooth and handles perfect. Also fuel consumption will stay at least 0.5l/100km below competition even when riding full throttle. In my opinion the PCX is a good choice even when riding longer distances (as like I do myself). But certainly you need to try it out for yourself.

    Unfortunately you do not get the auto idle stop system with it. This feature works perfect and it is real fun. It is implemented unbelievably well and responsive. Actually, it is not its small fuel saving effect, but the special inner city riding quality it gives, that makes me like it a lot.

    Phil