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Discussion in 'Racing' started by STROM-CRF450X-990SMT, Jul 2, 2012.
Bit clearer of doyles image
Cool. I blew it up in photoshop (hence the slight pixelation)
The front fuel cell on the side appears to go under the cradle frame.. ? (the black & white one with the HRC logo),
then it joins the belly pan / engine protector seamlessly, so the 2 side fuel cells on the front share a single joint filler cap where mx/enduro bikes have theirs?
The side shrouds continue forward to shape into the front fender + windscreen fairing
Am I alone in thinking that this looks a lot like a Suzuki DR800?
And how the hell do you get to the engine behind all this bodywork?
Not impressed to say the least, it seems to me they are striving to do something innovative without thinking of the practicalities of a 14day race...
Tried accessing the motor on a Ktm rallye??? No chance without removing the tanks or airbox
But being a Honda you really shouldn't have too!!! Just ride
Knowing Honda, a lot of the packaging could be quite practical, though I wonder if it's a single front tank that splays out from inside the frame to either side of the motor? Remove the motor to remove the tank? Doesn't seem too practical, but I am just speculating based off that photo.
I know, this just looks more complicated than it has to be...
What a bunch of Nit Pickers!!
This is just a concept Photo. IMO
1. Yes the front fender looks like the old DR 800 ( I like it for a High fender )
2. I like a LOW fender better!!
3. twin rear tanks???
4. 70 % Husaberg type Air filter??
5. low style Nav Tower!!!!
Have you guys seen this other bike developed by Arcarons based on the Honda as well?
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As far as I know, the HM Honda project never really went too far and Arcarons has since joined Bordone Ferrari as the team manager so I doubt he has any further input.
As others have mentioned it's just a concept photo.....IMHO it looks like an aftermarket kit instead of a purpose built rally bike. Disappointing from an esthetics point of view. My thoughts are that only mr Rodriguez will know if it's competitive against the factory ktm bikes and for that we'll likely not get an answer. The two rear tanks with the mx looking rear fender... tanks bolted onto a subframe.....old school. A front end that looks like n old Suzuki Mr Big
They are using up all the left over Honda CUB parts!!!
They just couldn't buy your silence... could they Mark...???
I think it looks...ok.
But wtf are the black things down by engine ?
The current 450x engine is really an 08 r motor - perfect to rallye from. (non efi r motors are pretty legendary)
I agree, just okay though. Looks like a bolt on kit not a factory built bike IMHO
I was looking forward to seeing a purpose built bike
Guess I shoulda known given their time restraints....
I think we're attempting to extract too specific a design from something that looks like a pretty high level example rather than a specific, finalized design.
I don't care how it looks ... 1) I'm chuffed to see that Honda Motor is headed back to rally racing and 2) how it performs is all that really matters.
Agreed, that's why I purposely mentioned this opinion was being based on a concept photo...but hey, this whole thread has been about speculation and rumors
We wouldn't have it any other way.
just hope it is reliable and doesn't break.
100% - no prizes in the Dakar for best turned out, anyhow if there was the Italians with the Mi1 ( maybe fur coat and no Knickers) would win that hands down
With a press conference slated for next week, not too long until we see the real thing, although I suspect that technically there may be still a little way to go before the "big one"
One thing we can be sure of though is that it's a factory Honda - it will work!