Honda SH 300

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Paulvt1, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. spynexes

    spynexes Pas mi Ellin Varvaro

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    Hi owned a Honda sh300i/CBS ,now i have 8500 km of working order but 5 times in the past,the engine stall when i was idling, i've changed everything but the problem insists (Change ECU,IACV,Throttle Body) do you know what causing all this trouble...


    Do you know anybody something about this issue!
    thanks in advance!
  2. John Bentall

    John Bentall Been here awhile

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    I have had the belt and rollers changed to cure some hesitation when starting very cold. Unfortunately the weather has just got warmer, so I'm not sure if this remedy has fixed the problem! The bike has always run perfectly when warm.

    John
  3. Oga Will

    Oga Will n00b

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    Just bought 2011 SH300... seems nice one week in.

    Just checked the oil for the first time (bought it with 2000 miles on it).

    Do you do this on the centre stand, with the dipstick unscrewed and place back in place?

    It's reading pretty low. The dealer did say it will consume oil, being used for stop-start traffic a lot (central London).

    Can anyone else report on how much oil they're using, and how they're reliably checking it please?

    Many thanks. Previous bike was a 2-stroke...
  4. John Bentall

    John Bentall Been here awhile

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    Check oil on centre-stand with dipstick unscrewed and resting on the mouth of the filler hole.

    Top it up and then check how much oil is being used. Honda recommend 10W-40 semi-synthetic.

    Mine uses very little oil, but it does not hold very much anyway, so I check it regularly.

    Best of luck,

    John
  5. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    Hi all

    My SH is nearly at 11,000 miles so I guess a drive belt change is due, correct?

    I'd like to get the parts in advance so are there any other things that need changing at the same time such as the rollers?

    The reason I ask is that on cold days after a few minutes running, when pulling away, it seems that the clutch is engaging far too quickly and I can only describe it as trying to pull away in a car in too high a gear. It clears after the engine warms up so I'm assuming it may be worn or sticky rollers.

    Any ideas?

    TIA

    P.s. Any videos or 'how to's' available on the belt change?
  6. Irishrover63

    Irishrover63 Adventurer

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    I get exactly the same symptoms as you describe and my SH300 has only done around 5,500 miles. I only noticed this when the weather started to turn cold at the start of winter.
  7. John Bentall

    John Bentall Been here awhile

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    I had exactly the same symptoms when the weather was cold! Had the belt and rollers changed at 9,000 miles after working out the cost of the tools needed to change the belt would be the same as having the dealer do it. I was charged 1.25 hours labor which included changing the brake fluid and checking the brakes
    The lower service limit for the belt is 25.5mm and mine measured 25mm, the rollers measured 23mm which is well within the standard tolerance of 22.92 to 23.08.

    Since the weather warmed up immediately after changing the belt, I don't really know whether changing it effected the cure.

    Hope this helps,

    John
  8. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    That's very helpful. Thanks. I have all the tools required (or should have) as I'm a car mechanic by trade. I was just wary of stripping it down and everything pinging apart. Can't be much involved if it's only a 1.25 hour job. When I get round to it I'll let everyone know how I got on and f I remember, I'll take pictures and post them up.
  9. EDW

    EDW n00b

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    Hi, my first and probably last post.

    Got my bike late 2011, had the new ECU done, still stalling, went back to dealer recently, stalled on way home.

    Going back to a different dealer soon who wants to put another ECU and intake valve.

    Have complained to Honda.

    I have filed a safety defect report with VOSA, it stalled on me turning right at Kings X, could have been very dangerous.
    You can download the form and email it to them here:

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/onlineservices/vehicledefects.htm

    I have heard of a recent case where a 2009 model was swapped by Honda for the new 2011 model.
    Be persistent!
  10. agesofman

    agesofman n00b

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    Hi

    Scoot is up close to 14,000 miles now and due a front brake pad change soon.
    I thought I would replace brake fluid whilst I was at it but from the peek you get of the master cylinder through the handlebar fairing there is no obvious spot to get the new fluid in.

    Does anyone know how it's done?

    regards
    Bob
    PS Fitted a Pipercross filter a few months back and both performance (top speed without top box now reaches - if you can wait! - 95mph) and fuel consumption have improved. I am now regularly getting 82 to 83mpg.
  11. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    Well, at just over 11,000 miles and with a slight scraping sound coming from the front brake that I could only hear when I was pushing my scoot in the garage with the engine off, I decided to give it a proper going over.

    Front pads had just started to touch metal on the outer edge so I fitted new front and rear brake pads. Bought a front and rear set of sintered ones (Goldfren) off of ebay for £30. Main dealer wanted nearly £80!

    While I was waiting for those to be delivered, I removed the rocker cover and cheked my valve clearances. The clearances were within tollerances so that was that. Next I removed the drive belt cover and the variator. I found no wear on the rollers so after cleaning the dust out of them I put them back. The actual belt seemed fine - no wear or shreding so at £100 a throw, I left that alone too. Gave the clutch a good blow out and made sure the shoes moved freely. Put all that back together.

    Changed the oil and filter, cleaned the air filter and adjusted the spark plug gap.

    Rode it today and............it's like a new bloody bike!!!!!!!:D

    Acceleration much crisper/smoother at all speeds now and (touch wood) no clunkyness/premature clutch engagement problems so far.

    :clap:clap
  12. sitbonzo

    sitbonzo Adventurer

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    I thought I'd update on my posting of last summer where I posted about my 1500mile journey to Ireland from southen England. A fine trip I would recomend.(page 12)
    Anyhow, I just traded my SH for a Honda deauville NT700 and thought I'd let you know the differences while they are still fresh in my mind.
    I only really ride to work if it's not raining so this is mainly a fair weather feedback.

    The SH held its own on the 34ish mile ride to work. Mostly motorway and I was happy to ride at about 65mph. Average car speed is generally 70-80 so I was in the inside lane mostly but had plenty of power to get to and maintain 80. 85tops.
    I also had a fair stretch of traffic in town to my office. Stability on the motorway was better than my new bike but no where near as comfy.

    Riding at 65ish and riding as smooth as a baby I regularly returned 75-85mpg which I think is prety good. Filtering and traffic work was a breeze and I found the bike well balanced and plenty fast off the lights.

    The service cost was crazy at £200 for the 8k but I think my dealer is expensive.

    Overall the bike was excelent value and fun to ride. The downside was the small tank and basically having to fill it every day. I think my commute was just a little too far.

    Should I have looked at the new Honda 700cc scoot? Maybe yes but I fancied a bigger tourer and am hoping to take a trip to Scotland and maybe the Southnof France next year.

    Happy scooting. And yes, I WILL nod to you not like the 'big bike boys' who shunned me on my SH!
  13. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    UPDATE:

    Some idiot in a car hit me side-on last week, the day before I was going on holiday. Got carted off to hospital with back muscle injuries. Insurance co. recovered the scooter and took it home for me. Managed to get away on holiday (just) but had a week of back agony and couldn't really do much. Good thing is that they have accepted liability and made an offer for personal injury which I am trying to get them to increase and their assessor is coming to look at the scooter tomorrow - I think they'll write it off - most of the plastic panels and screen are kaput, the exhaust cat may be damaged as thats where the car hit me and the handlebars are bent. Damaged my jeans, cracked my iPhone which was in my back pocket at the time and scuffed a hole in my jacket elbow. Just when it was all going good too! I'll let you know how it all pans out. :cry
  14. John Bentall

    John Bentall Been here awhile

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    Hi Steve,

    I have decided that the next time I have an "accident" with personal injury I will call White Dalton solicitors and run the matter past them.

    With some compensation plus the write-off value you should be able to pick up a new one or maybe a Piaggio BV350.

    Hope you recover soon,

    Regards,

    John
  15. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    Well, it wasn't written off and the insurance company gave me a cash settlement to repair the damaged bike. That, plus the personal injury compensation, loss of earnings and damage to personal items was enough to allow me to buy either a new SH or a BV. Test rode a BV yesterday and it wasn't as good as the Honda. As my SH is still mechanically perfect, I've fixed it up and will be putting the cash away to replace it in the future. Happy days! :clap:clap
  16. InlineSkate

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    Just curious not sure if you would know, but can SH300i's be imported stateside?
  17. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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  18. _Tom_

    _Tom_ n00b

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    Hello from Czech Republic
    my first season at sh2011.od March 2012 to September 2012 27,000 km (16 777mil). super for one season. 

    Trips and tours:
    Austrian Alps, grossglockner
    http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/2012_05_24_-_Skutrexpedice/


    F1 deutschland
    http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/2012_07_22_-_F1_Hockenheimring_Deutschland/

    Poland Wieliczka
    http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/28.4._-_1.5._2011_-_SF_Wieliczka_-_solne_doly/

    and many more trips and more photos: http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/


    in CZE. way for 48 hours around the whole country. 1500 km
    http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/Kudy_tudy..../#cela_mapa_48.jpg


    - Technology OK. no defect.
    service just oil, filters, spark plug,. According to the service calendar ;-)
    variator, belt, rollers - OK
    brake pads about 50% front, 70% rear
    No loss of oil

    Manufacture of tires, Metzeler feelfree both exchange at 24,000 km, now reinsertion Metzeler ;-)

    Consumption: 3.5 l/100km (27 000km)

    accessories
    - Givi airflow
    - Givi topbox B47 with painted lid
    - Hotgrips oxford
    - Gps mount made for Givi airflow with power firmly tomtom
    http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/Drzak_navigace/

    - 12V socket with a constant supply under saddle

    - Holders of side bags easily customized, similar
    http://tom-galerie.rajce.idnes.cz/Bocni_tasky/
  19. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    Just an update on the belt issue. It started getting a bit sluggish again so I bit the bullet and decided to replace the belt and rollers. On ebay there's a couple of sellers selling non-original belts for £99.99 plus about £13 postage. Christ, I wondered how much a genuine Honda one would be. I phoned up and was flabbergasted to find that the are just £77.00!!!

    I ended up paying just £95 for an original belt and a set of original rollers. Good for another 12,000 miles. :clap
  20. Steve_Dalton

    Steve_Dalton Scooterist

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    Just to say I replaced the screen with a Givi airflow one. Very good screen and I'd definitely recommend it. Got a nearly new on off the 'bay for £60. Seller had bought an SH300 to do the knowledge on but his clip board thingy with his routes on wouldn't fit with this screen. Mot this week - it'll fly through!