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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by jas67, Mar 29, 2012.
That is beautiful.
Still having fun with our resurrected 1989/1990 VTR with the AFM here in California ...
Turn 10 at Sears Point ... Photo: Solomon Wu ... Thanks, Solomon!
Raced it in a demonstration race on Saturday, the "250 Challenge" ... 30 late model Kawasaki Ninja 250s, and one Honda ... ha.
Got down to a 2:08, which was good for me ... the fast guys are about 10 seconds a lap faster than I am ... so, lots of room for improvement ... I can say it isn't the VTR 250 that's holding me back ... double ha.
see you in the paddock,
Just picked up a 1989 VTR250 with the intent to convert to track/race bike for the girl.
Can I ask what race plastics you use? I've only found one set so far...
Here's the VTR250 I wish we could get in the US.
why in the hell has Honda not put these up against ninja 250's all these years?
They look like little Ducati monsters! Awesome!
Also, Suzuki Bandit 400's are also very cool, trellis frame as well, water cooled while 600 and 1200's were air/oil cooled.
Wish 400's were here like they were in England and Japan.
That VTR250 that Honda sells in Japan really is a sharp looking bike. I would sell my Ninja to buy one in a heartbeat, but sadly...
Might have mentioned this before, but I found a place in Japan where they would sell me one and ship it in pieces to me, easy to put back together, so it would fit in decent size boxes and shipped by Fedex or whoever.
The problem was registering it here, I looked into it and it was a hassle beyond belief. The new monster type VTR with fuel injection is the bomb to me, but yes,
There's a special place in my heart for the two-fiddy, I tried to log on to Tomi's site just to say "Hi", but no-go (I hadn't logged on for a year or so), so I googled, and this thread came up.
I had a 1990, picked it up in 2004, rebuilt it, painted it, rode the pants off of it.
It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow!
Noticed this thread title and thought I would contribute. A 1988 VT250F (US VTR) was my housemate's first bike. This was a dog, it hadn't been looked after at all, and we spent months fixing it up. Then the day before we went to get a safety certificate, it began to belch out white smoke so we assumed it blew a headgasket, cut losses, sold it and moved on. But anyway heres some info:
US VTR250 Interceptor is very similar and practically the same as the VT250F, the version that Asia, Australian and perhaps England got.
My housemate lucked in and got an 88 model VT250F which was practically the same as the Jap-spec one: put out 45hp and had twin discs (rare) at the front. Photo of his below:
After selling it, he went and bought a Honda Spada, which wasn't ever sold in the states. Fantastic bike, used the same motor from the VT250F/VTR250 which similar HP but came with a full ridgid cast aluminium frame (CASTEC) which was significantly lighter and stiffer. Was also a naked bike. Photo of his Spada below:
Australia also gets the current VTR250, which uses the same engine as the rest but detuned, think it puts out about 34ish hp? Has the lovely trellis frame, as mentioned it looks like a mini monster. Great learners bike, looks great and fun to ride. Stock photo below (check out the sweet Staintune pipe):
Finally, I want to clear up the talk about the CBR250. The current CBR250 is NOTHING like the original CBR250Rs and RRs...apart from being a 250 I guess.
The old CBR250R's and RR's were race replica supersports, with incredibly high revving inline 4's...we're talking a 19,000RPM redline. All of the big 4 produced a bike similar to this (FZR250, ZXR250, GSX-R250) and were all 40-45ish hp (high power for a 250), high reving, inline four supersports.
The new CBR250 is completely different...yes it uses the CBR name but that's pretty much it. It's runs a single cylinder, puts out about 25ish hp and is designed a be a comfortable and easy way into learning how to ride a bike. You look like a mad dog racer, but power is tame and won't scare off learners. Definitely in no way comparable to the old CBR's.
Thought this might be of interest.
Thanks for the information and the photos.
If I just had a comfortable seat for my 1989 VTR250, I'd be most satisfied with it.
My dad had so much fun riding my VTR he started to look for one. Now we both have one. On our ride home his battery went dead because of the reg/rect. He was all worried about how he would get the bike home. I said all we need is a fully charged battery that will fit and I know where to get one. He was puzzled as to where we would get one, being out in the middle of nowhere. I told him to take mine and disconnect the head light and use hand signals to turn. I bumped started mine with his battery and made it home 100 miles later.
It's located somewhere along Highway 61:
I race my 1990!
NEW TO THE COLLECTION LAST WEEK
8000 miles, with title for 400. Both sides are clean
Score!! One thing: clean the carbs and change out all the little o rings in the carbs before riding it.
Teh second VTR I had sat for a while. It started right up, ran well, but on the way home, the needle valve must have had varnish or goo on it, when I rolled off the throttle it didn't retract.
The result was every time I shifted, a little fuel went past the valve and into the crankcase. Since I was not accelerating the fuel did not get burnt off. Within 15 miles, the bike started smoking. I pulled off the freeway and the motor locked up. The crankcase was filled with gas (and the oil) and the cylinders were filled with gas too. Hydraulic lock!
I got it home in my bud's pickup, and when I drained the oil, it was mostly gas and WAY more than two quarts came out. I took apart the carbs and saw what happened. I rebuilt them, new jets/needles, etc, and put it back together and it started and ran fine. I lucked out, it would have been easy to bend the valves.
Only thing was, the exhaust stuck like fuel for months, it was hard to get the stink of gas out of the cannister. Might have been the pre chamber in front of the cannister, who knows. Honda dealer bought it from me for way more than I paid, dealer wanted a 250 on the lot for new women riders to try out.
just picked up a mostly complete parts bike for 200. like i needed another winter time project
I don't get why they developed the CBR250R with this in production.
Because they would cost something like USD $8,500 to import to the USA and at that price, no one would buy one!
Isn't the 80s/90s North American spec VT250 engine just half a 500 interceptor motor? in which case, parts should not be much of a problem.