Honda XR 600 R For Heroes legent race

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by martin.kryjom, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. martin.kryjom

    martin.kryjom Adventurer

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    Thank u. I almost ordered new one from Honda. I have new exel rims. I know is a problem to get new spokes for old lady so can anybody advice online shop?
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    Martin
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  2. martin.kryjom

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    Hi Jerry. U are my guide now,thank U!
    Double coil with 2 units?Well i get confused on that as we have one cylinder only so one unit for one spark, is the 2nd as a emergency one?(sorry for that dummy question but i just confused:)
    Clutch-done
    Oil cooler-i will use mark set, looks great. I could not buy xr 400 anymore in Europe , only in very bad shape.
    Frame-every day im closer to buy that last new frame from the Honda dealer and design new subframe for it.
    Havy duty spokes, domu know the place i could ordered it online?
    Best regards
    Martin
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  3. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    buchanans spokes

    custom made for any bike

    $115 for the set...

    I bought stainless spokes for the front on ebay, made by white brothers...aka buchanans, jajaja

    about the shock and swingarm issues...

    is your frame bent?

    Im using an xrl shock which is bigger than the original 88 shock...tight but works awesome!
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  4. martin.kryjom

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    I will check that spokes. No , frame is no bent, it was laser messured and all was fine. I have bought that bike from old german guy , not too much offroad on that bike.
    There is still a smal gap but very litlle...
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  5. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    martin in that pic it looks like the spring is hitting the frame...mine was tight but not that tight

    make sure when you measure that all the bearings and bolts in the linkages are new and correctly fitted...

    like I said I have a 2002 or so xrl shock which is much wider than the 88 shock and it fits,..in fact the frame fit is fine, the airbox is wher I had to move it around a bit so it would rub too much

    good luck!
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  6. martin.kryjom

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    All is lase4 messured so is i think ok., it looks like that on pictures.
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  7. martin.kryjom

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    After sending frame i have found 2 problems.

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    I would like to clean and flush that part of frame wchich holds oil, what can i use fir that, normal engine cleaning stuff or may be there is some special cover inside and i should be carrefull with that?

    2. I have found that the guy who did sending did not cover small holes in the frame where water shoud go out if needed. As a result i have some send on the frame, hiw can i remove that?

    Please help...
    Best regards
    Martin
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  8. mcma111

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    Solvent, paint thinner, kerosene,

    Here's my bike. It took 50 to 60 flushs to get the solvent to come out clean.

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  9. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    jaja this is very common after sandblasting

    kerosene or solvent flushes, many of them

    use a coffee filter and STRAIN the solvent

    you must do this until the coffee filter and solvent comes out clean...something like 20 flushes moving the frame all around

    use 1 liter of solvent every time, buy 3 or 4 galons of solvent(kerosene, mineral spirits, thinner, acetone etc...) it needs to be thinner than oil obviously

    steve has a nice pic of this method on his engine rebuild thread for an xrl.

    good luck

    christian
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  10. martin.kryjom

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    Hi
    Thanks a lot for help.
    Best regards
    Martin
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  11. martin.kryjom

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    HI
    Few new pics of my projects, bike is already done, but few things left do do


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  12. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    I see you went with a flatslide carb too...very nice and keep it up:D
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  13. martin.kryjom

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    HI
    Actually I have a problem with flat side. On the 3/4 throtle bike is running not smooth, is going up and down on rpm. How to fix it?
    Is only when i try to be stady on one throtle position, when accelerating it is not a problem.

    I have 628 HRC big bore with XR only exhaus ( as far as i know is from 650 due bigger compression and bore)
    may be i need rejetting ?
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  14. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    more details

    what jets, what model, what size is it?

    if standard 41mm xrsonly or ballards tm38 flatslide you can use

    12.5, 15, 17.5 or 20 pilot
    6fj41 needle in 3rd clip or 4th
    210, 220, 230 or 240max main jet

    this should work

    unfortunately since you arent running right you need to do plug chops, steady throttle and kill engine while pulling in clutch...coast to stop with clutch in:D
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  15. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    first make sure you have no intake leaks at boot or from airbox to carb

    it sounds like you are lean since the throttle goes up and down when steady like surging almost that means you have to modofy the needle position or needle and mainjet

    do one change at a time

    Im using on my bike(dual headers and different jetting)

    15 pilot and 230 main
    needle 3rd clip or middle

    its perfect now. nice and tan brown on the plug and no hesitation, bog or surging anywhere

    cheers
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  16. martin.kryjom

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    THANKS for help.
    Is XR only,
    I have oreder one before for sandard engine and exhaust, this one ( on the bike) has come with the new engine , but i have checked and jetting and all set up is the same, so they did not adjust it to new commpression and exhaust
    I will try different set up tommorow
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  17. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    do you know what jets and needle you have now? once you do you can start jetting

    its wierd because those big bores ive found out usually dont need any more gas, in fact since compression is increased and combustion is more efficient you can usally lean the jetting a bit...

    let us know

    looking real nice! very nice

    ps. what did you use for header wrap?
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  18. Ivanych

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    WOW!
    Very good work!!:clap
    More about the rear shock, what is this model .....

    what the diameter of the spring from the outside?
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  19. martin.kryjom

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    HI
    Is ohlins made for me, but is made on the specs of the orginal one from 1994 up.
    Diameter is biger then 1990 and smaller a lit bit of 1994 as there was no space for biger spring.
    Now diaeter from outside is 87mm, but i will confirm it when i will back home .
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  20. martin.kryjom

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    more pics:)
    new rear hub for 1990, propablly one of the last new ones on the market:)
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    Rear suspension, all renowated

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    BRP racing :) nice job, very good product together with scott stabilizer
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    IMS ( very nice, sharp and easy to mount)
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    IMS tank, i like the shape, i disaponted as it LEAKS, how to repair it , i do not know:( Now is off the bike , i use old one from clarke ( small 2.6) , I need a help with that repair. It just leaks on the edge, small holes on the edge in the plastic...

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