Horsepower

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by 390beretta, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. 390beretta

    390beretta Long timer

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    Yep, it's kind of funny. The triples seem so damn...smoothe, compared to everything else. Honest to Dog, sometimes it feels as though my K75 is an "electric motorcycle" rather than internal combustion!
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  2. motu

    motu Loose Pre Unit

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    I was riding my R65 around the city yesterday ( I don't live in a city anymore, and seldom ride the bike there) and it was very hard to keep to the 50kph (30mph) speed limit. I didn't care about speed limits 30 years ago and thrashed my bikes everywhere in the city, often hitting 100mph in city commuting traffic. The old R65 is just too powerful for the city.
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  3. nicholastanguma

    nicholastanguma nicholastanguma

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    This is coming from someone who owns nothing but old school rides, moto and auto alike, so I'm admitting up front that I'm totally biased.

    "Low" horsepower is part of the vintage experience. I'll throw irrational amounts of money at old engines, transmissions, suspensions, brakes, and electrics to get them performing at the top of their games, but I personally don't care one bit if a modern and less expensive moto or auto will still outperform in every area. I don't care if they're more comfortable, or quiet, or "practical."

    Modern and shiny and disposable simply has no proper soul. :puke1

    Engine swaps are cool. Old CJ7 with a 4.3 Vortec v6? Absolutely, but keep it carbureted. Old FJ40 with a 1HZ diesel 6? Keep it mechanically injected. Old rail buggy waiting for a new heart? Give 'er an aircooled VW flat four. These same principles are instantly applicable to every motorcycle.

    Do Urals break a lot? Yup. Still radder than a GSXR? Undeniably.

    BTW, I'm only 32 years old. Retro and vintage are very niche among my age group (aside from hipsters, who are too cool for this thread anyway). For those of you older gents that lament how my generation and younger are all digitally brainwashed mass produced items from a politically correct nanny state culture, please take some solace that not every single one of us actually is.
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  4. nicholastanguma

    nicholastanguma nicholastanguma

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    +1. When this kind of thing happens I politely smile and think to myself, "Well, Jesus loves everyone. Even plastic people."

    :rofl
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  5. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    New sportsbikes DO have a tendency to be a bit boring.
    In the early 80s riding a CB/4 at 100mph through a series of bumpy bends required concentration, focus, a bit of muscle, and staring as far ahead as possible.........
    Doing that speed on a sportbike (I've tried 996 Duc, 2006 ZX10R, 2011 GSXR1, etc) is like riding to the shops on my scoot. There is no shimmy, no tyre slip, no slight flex as you attempt to steer just a little bit more, no "somewhat disconcerting" wobble if you try to change anything in line or speed.
    I have a 250 scoot for everything nowadays, a quick shopping bag or two, highway commuting at a steady 110kph, bumps, freeways, gravel with corrugations, the lot.
    I also have a Vmax for when I start to forget what motorcycling used to be like, and how much fun it can be. :clap
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  6. RustyStuff

    RustyStuff Been here awhile

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    Seeing how I have been pulled over for going 5 over on my GS450, I don't want to know what I would do with a bike that can do 120 without breaking a sweat.
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  7. Tim_Tom

    Tim_Tom Been here awhile

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    Old bikes can still be fast bikes. Especially big bore Suzuki GS's :D. In a top gear roll on from 65 I walked away from a buddy on his new Street Triple R, me on my old Suzuki 850. I think he was more surprised when I dusted him on the twisty back roads before that though. New springs, shocks, and sticky tires will make an old bike surprisingly good, and a BLAST to ride.

    For comparison sake I rode a friends FZ1 track bike, and it was like straddling a cruise missile. Into triple digits by the end of 2nd gear easily. It was incredibly fast.

    But for the real world riding environment my old bike still has enough horsepower. Do wish I had more modern brakes though.
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