Hotrodding the GS - Pre-Order Sale!

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Poolside, Mar 12, 2011.

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  1. Poolside

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    Nice! That model would be ideal. But I think some sort of EPA waiver is required to operate that device on-planet.


    [Edit:] I just finished an enjoyable conversation with a fellow ADVrider who called to ask about what we have going over here these days. Sort of a general update. I think we talked for over a half hour, and covered a range of topics. I'll post up a summary a little later.

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  2. 1224R

    1224R Long timer

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    Okay folks please don't flog me for this question because I'm sure it's been asked a bazillion times what do I have a 2007 GS adventure what exactly do I need to purchase? Or what pieces do you recco??? Thank you in advance...
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    Hey there, 1224R. All your questions are welcome. Almost everything is welcome here. No floggings, heh heh.

    As far as what to get for your GS, there are a couple of different ways. There's the original IICE Air, the 'classic' version we could say. And the new Digital Air, Smooth, and Cool devices are just around the corner. The Digital models have combined functions. For example, the Air and the Smooth functions, but in one box.

    The minimum summary to make a decision is below. There are more details in the Hotrod thread in GSpot. And the full development and functions of the Digital devices will continue with 'engineer's notebook' style posts, like we did with the IICE Air.

    -Air does its job during open loop acceleration. Works when the motor RPM is increasing. Same function as Booster Plug, Accelerator, Juice Box, and other products.

    -Cool maximizes transient throttle response. Works like an accelerator pump on a carburettor. Operates when the throttle is cracked open. This one is my favorite.

    -Smooth is the double O2 sensor controller. Works when the motor is in closed loop. Some similarities to the XIED but controls two O2 sensors. Digital control provides automatic operation, aging sensor compensation, and sensor diagnostic functions.

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  4. CamoGreg

    CamoGreg Can you see me?

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    My advice would be to sit tight, wait and see what shakes out and how long "just around the corner" will be.
    The development has been what I consider a slow process.
    And I regret jumping in to this too quickly.
    I have the same bike. It's 50k longer in the tooth when this all began. It's still a great bike stock. I may have another 50k to put on mine before it's time for another.
    And maybe, right around the corner will happen before then. And maybe not.

    My .02
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    You are right about that Greg. Development and manufacturing moves quickly at times, and sometimes less so.The IICE Air is sort of a complex hardware puzzle. What I mean is the design is mechanically intricate, which made building 650 of them quite a project. The Calibration plug-in too is a bit of miniature clockwork. Also not the easiest to hand produce.

    Following the Calibration plug-in we expect a very smooth path for the Digital devices. The new Digital devices are more basic mechanical designs say. With their sophistication provided by processors and code.

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  6. c4v3man

    c4v3man Guns +Gas +Oil = Fun day!

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    Are you anticipating making a single air/smooth/cool device, and/or single mountable package to make mounting/installing easier or more compact?
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    They are compact any way you slice it. If the three digital devices, Air, Smooth, and Cool were in one box, that box would be under two cubic inches. As individual devices, each one would fit in a box smaller than one cubic inch. Those two cubic volumes happen to be the two smallest available boxes that have mounting tabs. With mounting tabs the box can be held in place with zip ties. The smaller, less than one cubic inch box, is what the IICE Air uses.

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  8. Poolside

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    <BR>Hey, guess what these are. These my friends are the last batch of the remaining IICE Air orders. I don't know which smiley to use for this occasion.&#8195;Cheers. :freaky

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  9. Beemer Rob

    Beemer Rob Stuck in Ohio

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    Any idea when the calibration plugs are going to ship?:ear
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    Hey there Rob. We're getting there. Right now I'm working on a Pick-and-Place setup.

    The other day I sorted out the Machine Vision. For scale, that's the edge of a dime in the picture.

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  11. Poolside

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    <BR>Looking Back and Looking Forward

    Hey there folks. This community project, and the Hotrod threads here and in GSpot, have been great fun. And as we gear up for the new Digital IICE Smooth and Cool, and build the IICE Air Calibration board, the time has come to take a look at some of the goings-on in the threads, and what to expect going forward.

    These Hotrod threads have been around for a while now, and receive a large number of posts. Over that length of time a long-running thread is bound to collect some debris say. That debris is the subject here.

    I'm referring to about a dozen or so people who seem determined to get into scrapes around here. These dust-ups have happened a few times in here, and in the GSpot thread. And my usual preference of sitting back and letting it blow over hasn't worked. The solution at this time is the dozen or so members of that organized group are not welcome in these threads. We're putting the cat out, as they say.

    For the rest of us going forward, please note the simple posting guideline below. And also, relax, because the guideline does not apply to you. It's for those few who habitually need to push buttons, to the detriment of the many who must live with the consequences.

    Our single guideline embodies the general sentiment of the ADVrider forum rules. The forum rules have been around from the start, but I don't really enforce them. I'm not one for rules myself. Besides, I prefer to let things ramble around in this thread. It's more fun that way.

    There is only one guideline that matters, just one basic theme that applies in this thread. Don't be an asshat and harsh the good time for others. And if you cause a problem, it will become your problem.

    What does 'being an asshat' mean?

    One way to look at this thread is in terms of a party. A party is about having a good time, and I seriously mean that. Go on and do the usual party activities, spill your drink, track guacamole into the rug, knock over a table lamp. It's fine. Jump off the roof into the pool if you like. Just don't throw the patio furniture in there. That's a party foul.

    Another way to look at this thread, is along the lines of a ride report thread. You read, comment, contribute, have fun, enjoy the trip. If you're not happy with the ride you can always visit another thread. Turn right at the next fork in the road as it were. Or stick around and follow along as the thread progresses.

    And while this project has turned out to be a great ride, sometimes the goings on in the threads get a little out of hand. Granted there have been detours and bumps in the road. We do our best to get back on track, and the journey continues.

    I hope you'll join us. Besides, someone just made a beer run. And we think it's the good stuff&#8230; :-)


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  12. Poolside

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    <BR>Hey there, folks. I'm up in the SF Bay area for the next week, helping a friend while she recovers from surgery. I brought some IICE-related work with me, to work on when I'm not stepping and fetching.

    Let's meet up while I'm up here! It's been a while since I've seen any of you guys. Coffee, a meal, beer, you name it. Post in this thread and we can coordinate something. I'm staying in San Rafael, so anything ranging from Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco.

    Last time we met over at Andrew's and flubbed our way through a TB adjustment on an 1100GS. Heh heh, good times! And I met a good number of you all at Point Reyes one morning.

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  13. Andrew

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    There was no flubber... just good tuning with the Bay Area's tallest manometer. :thumb

    Berkeley can offer up beer and pizza to beat the barn, let us know what days work for you.

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    johnjen I've Been Resigned

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    Ok, so names, we need names… :norton
    Or at least I need names… :evil


    JJ :thumb
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    From left:&#8194;slackmeyer, NoMiles, Anorak, Poolside, and Andrew is behind the camera.


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  16. Roll-sen

    Roll-sen Hater be Hatin'

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    Huh. Anorak doesn't look anything like Smokey Yunick.
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    Heh heh, and I dare say he didn't much resemble his prior ADVrider moniker either.


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    Tuesday or Wednesday pm works fine for me. I remember some fine pizza!

    Yep that manometer had some good resolution. Once the bike model was established, 1100 vs. 1150, everything went fine.&#8194;:lol3



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  19. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    Jim, I'm off on Wednesday for my wife's birthday (hiking in Point Reyes, dinner in San Rafael), so how about Tuesday night East Bay?

    We ate at Jupiter last time, which is always fine. http://www.jupiterbeer.com/

    Moxy on Sacramento is another new spot, good grub and wide beer selection. Easy parking! http://moxybeergarden.com/

    Them's are my votes, anyway. Glad to join in if something can be figured out.
  20. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    I might make it, don't know.

    Y'know, after messing with the tuning on that bike for quite a long time, I pulled it apart, found a leaky head gasket and a couple pulled studs, helicoiled it and replaced the gaskets, and then it was much, much easier to balance the TBs.
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