How do you carry while riding?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Sturgell, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. Wingspan

    Wingspan Been here awhile

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    Then there is no reason to carry on your person while riding and put yourself at added risk of injury during a fall.
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  2. swingset

    swingset Got the knack.

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    Transitioning from luggage to person can be awkward, tactically revealing, possibly alarming to someone who sees you (say going into a bank, etc.) and increases the handling of a gun that might otherwise just stay put under your garments.

    There's arguments for having it on you, and off, and no right answer.

    I choose to carry a small gun while on the bike, and keep it at my 12 oclock position over my belly...figuring that I'm not likely to land on my stomach, and there are no bones or hard tissue there to injure. I've fallen off the bike hundreds of times on trails and it's never hurt or caused an issue.

    Just gotta make your compromise, and live with it. The one I'm not willing to make is being defenseless in my travels. YMMV.
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  3. Wingspan

    Wingspan Been here awhile

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    I'm not suggesting anyone be defenseless. :gun1
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  4. Midnightventure

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    I hate to say it but most of the time I end up carrying my Kel-tec 380 just because its easy. One thing that doesn't work very well is one of those undershirts with the pocket under the armpit. Works well otherwise but on a long ride with a Beretta 9000 .40 was pretty uncomfortable.
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  5. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    Either a Kahr PM9 or PM40 fit very nicely in the cargo pocket of my Motoport pants carried in a very basic Desantis Nemesis, or a similar Galco version in roughout leather at all times while dressed to ride.

    My Glock 27 fitted with a GAP magazine base plate has a little more snug fit in the same sort of holster in the cargo pockets as well.

    Dirty
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  6. Bonebag

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    Yeah..I know..just being a smart ass..I suppose If I did carry it would be under my jacket in one of those under arm, cool ass, Bruce Willis style holster deals..but the idea of carrying a weapon in the US or Canada is kinda silly to me..kinda like carrying bear spray in Key West....more weight and more responsibility when I'm trying to have fun..not trying to be anti...just sayin' what works for me.. Carry On:D
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  7. gunz

    gunz Been here awhile

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    I have my CCW I carry everywhere I go.
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  8. Giuseppe

    Giuseppe Medium-Viz

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    Pocket holster in jacket or pants (can be easily transferred to off-bike clothing on a bathroom, hotel room, etc.) or Ken Null SKR City Slicker shoulder holster.

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    The only downside to the Null is that you have to have your jacket open, or at least mostly unzipped.
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  9. Law Dawg (ret)

    Law Dawg (ret) Been here awhile

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    This is exactly how I carry...have for years. Lets do the math here; Only LEOs and crooks (well, some other armed citizens too) will know you are packing. If you are carrying legal you have nothing to fear from the LEO. The crook knowing I am prepared is most likely to leave me alone. I just don't see a problem with that.

    Most folks are as clueless about firearms as they are about driving their cages and will not notice. IMHO a fanny pack is the safest least obvious way to carry concealed on a bike. And yes I have crashed (trip to the ER) while wearing my rig (Glock 21).
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  10. Missouri Man

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    :nod
    .....or when you break down in the middle of nowhere and some locals or the pit bull at the house that you are walking by, decide they want to have a little fun at your expense.
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  11. wanderlost

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    I have a CCW and multiple firearms but rarely carry when traveling because of concerns when crossing state lines where CCW may not be valid (ie felony in NY state). Also, like most people I shoot right handed which wouldn't work while on the bike. Off the bike there have been a few times I wished I had a weapon for security, but in actuality nothing happened anyway. Now I carry a can of pepper spray which is legal in most localities (except traveling to Canada). That and a knife would cover all eventualities except for full on craziness which I hope I am smart enough to recognize and avoid.

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  12. DriveShaft

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    Of course there's a reason...not wanting to expose your weapon *at all* unless deadly force is called for is the most common reason for an interest in carrying while riding. It has absolutely nothing to do with an interest in actually operating the weapon while riding, or with gloved hand, or with your throttle hand. All of that is besides the point. Concealed carry is about absolute preparedness, absolutely concealed. Any deviation from that is an unwanted exposure. So, transfers from off-body locations to on-body locations are undesirable...hence the interest in keeping it on-the-body--continuity of concealment. Unless you're a mall ninja, the preparedness and interest in maintaining concealment is what you're interested in, not the ability to shoot while riding.
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  13. dlh62c

    dlh62c Long timer

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    If you feel the need to carry....by all means do so. Your 'Riding Your Own Ride'. But do it legally. If you don't you should be prepared for the consequences both physically and financially.

    I've never felt a need to carry here in the US. But working in Israel was different. There were times I felt everybody was carrying a gun but me. I would give the solders I worked with rides to the nearest bus stop. The car was packed shoulder to shoulder, everyone with either a UZI or M16.

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  14. Gravel Traveler

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    Maxpedition make a nice CCW bag. I like to carry water, camera, wallet... that type of thing. Rides nice over your shoulder like a courier bag, with a strap to attach to your belt to keep it in place when drawing.

    I guess in reality it's just a fancy fagbag, but I own one and ride with it.

    http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=6
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  15. Disco Stu

    Disco Stu Long timer

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    the question wasn't 'Do you?' the question was 'how do you?'
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  16. Wingspan

    Wingspan Been here awhile

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    Guys, I understand the importance of conceilment and do CCW myself. I am not saying people shouldn't carry. However, there are ways around the issue that don't involve having the gun on your body. It just takes a new routine, some forethought, and practice. All things that should be a part of everyones CCW habits. Fanny packs and the like only scream "gun" to gun guys. The rest of the public will only question your fasion sense. That is the real reason most guys dismiss the idea, better to risk falling on your sidearm than have people think you carry a purse.

    As for the glove comment, I was not suggesting people shoot while riding like some sort of hollywood farse. I was envisioning an attack when stopped, but geared up (think carjacking or a parking lot attack while gearing up, threats come when you don't expect them). FWIW, the only time I've felt a potential
    need for a firearm while riding was when I was mobbed by three homeless crazies while stuck in traffic in Detroit. Having a gun buried under my gear and inoperable with gloves would not have helped anything had the need arose. To each their own, but I feel if the weapon isn't accessable and usable, then it serves no purpose other than to inflict additional injury in an accident. YMMV.
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  17. frag

    frag I support single moms

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    This is my life....I ride and work in Detroit, and have been rolling on the Cass Corridor, and some scary MF'rs walking in the street right around you.

    My S/W 337pd J-frame is carried in the inside pocket on the left side of my Brooks Leather bike jacket in a Uncle Mikes #3 pocket holster. Two safari speed loads in the front left pocket.

    I have, when not at work, going to work or the ride home, carried a Glock 36, open carry while on the bike. It is a cop magnet, and a guy I know that rides with the Detroit Highwayman MC, told me I was a stupid MF'r for doing that....so I quit carrying open.

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  18. frag

    frag I support single moms

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    Yeah in Michigan, we'll accept your out of state CCW permit...but you'll need to leave the pepper spray at home. I know some that carry wasp spray for personal protection in lieu of pepper.
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  19. Disco Stu

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    I have taken my summer riding gloves to the shooting range before and, yes, I can pull the gun from my riding pants pocket and shoot it with my gloves on. :evil
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  20. DriveShaft

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    See, that is a classic straw man argument. Yes, operating a weapon while wearing motorcycle equipment might be difficult (not impossible, but foolish to depend on w/o practice, I agree). But you argue that since that is difficult, there could be no other purpose other than incurring additional injury, and that is simply not true. The fact that you benefit from avoiding open transfer is completely lost on your argument. It makes your routine more manageable, and that in itself is an every day convenience and tactical benefit that some feel is worth the risk of potential injury. The purpose it serves is obviously valued by at least the original poster.

    Furthermore, the infliction of additional injury that you refer to is solely a risk, not a certainty. Some would argue it is a pretty remote risk at that. Concealed carry is an activity riddled with inconveniences, responsibility, and risk. The possibility of additional injury can be viewed as yet another risk/responsiblity one bears w/ the right.

    Of course your mileage may vary, which is why looking at how to do it is worth a discussion.
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