How high is too high?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by birch, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. birch

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    After being off bikes since high school, looking to get back on! I've been looking at Triumph Thunderbird Sports or Sprints, but stumbled across an R1100S and I'm in lust.

    There's a high mileage one nearby. Like 110,000 mi high. I know that's middle age for a well treated boxer, but what about everything else? I asked about final drive, clutch, but not sure what else to ask?

    With 50,000 mi bikes going for $4-5k, what is a good price? Wondering if this is a decent pick up since I'm a touch rusty and might have a drop or three.

    Also, as a side note, I'm 6'3" with some long arms. I fit well on a Sprint 1050, and the ergos seem similar. Can anyone comment on this too?

    Thanks so much!

    *also posted at Pelicanparts*
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  2. Lomax

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    The only advice I can give it is all depends on the service history. I had a R1200GS with 125K miles on it that ran like new and had no issues what so ever. I was the second owner and the PO had all the services done on time and took care of anything that came up.

    That said I have seen 25K mile bikes that were junk and I would not touch them.

    On price I would go with about 1/2 what a same year, same condition, lower mileage bike is worth. Setting cost value is real hard to do. Just keep in mind that a high mileage bike, no matter how good of condition it is in, will be a lot harder to seel when you want to runr it. One reason this is my price recomendation is that if you do have to fix a major component you can still have a good value. But again resale will be next to nothing.

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  3. duke944

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    If it looks decent and runs/rides good with little to no play in the rear wheel I'd offer $2500 and go to $3k tops if you really like it. That's a grand or so over what you could part it out for, which is a good place to be with that kind of miles.
    I've ridden both of them, I think the Sprint was more comfortable but not by much.
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  4. corndog67

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    Too many. I bet if you look, and you really want that model bike, you can find one with less than 10,000 miles.
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  5. KungPaoDog

    KungPaoDog Been here awhile

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    I'll second that $2000-$3000 seems reasonable depending on the general condition. I'd say that just about anything that starts, goes, and stops with title is worth $500 to $1000, so any improvement over that type of condition is a bonus. If you aren't positive that you want to spend a long time with it, get the high mileage bike and if you really love it, then go find a low mileage example that you can be buried with.

    I have been riding my K75 (1986) pretty hard for the last 5 years, maybe 4000 miles per year? I have no idea how many miles it has since the odometer broke shortly after I got it with 125,000 miles. I did put a new clutch in it last year, but I just flog it like I stole it. It won't die, and it always starts. I'm not a die-hard Beemer fan, but I sure says something about the way they build bikes.
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  6. birch

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    Hips were a bit tight, and the bike shows its 111k miles, but mechanically sounded and felt good.

    Owner said shocks could need replacing soon. Any clue on how much that would be? Also looks like about $600 for system bags and mounting hardware and $150 for lower pegs. [​IMG]
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  7. mamm

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    Put a new front tire on your costs list too.
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  8. birch

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    Ah, that was just put on in the winter.
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  9. duke944

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    Paint looks pretty good, is there tip over damage? shocks would be cheap used off Ebay, probably $50 each - new about 10x that. Google peg lowering kit and find out how much that costs. Did you check the rear wheel for play? since it needs bags I'd be thinking $2000 on this one, what is he asking?
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  10. birch

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    Asking $2800. I wasn't sure how to check the rear for play. Like laterally?
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  11. birch

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    Asking $2800. I wasn't sure how to check the rear for play. Like laterally?
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  12. mamm

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    Kneel down at the left side, grab the rear tire at 3 and 9 o'clock, rock hands back and forth (yeah, that's lateral force relative to the motorcycle). Repeat at 12 and 6. There should be no free play.

    Some say that a little free play (we're talking 1-2mm at the tire here) is acceptable, but I don't think so.
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  13. HornHonker

    HornHonker Been here awhile

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    I'd buy it for 2800.
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  14. kraven

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    [​IMG]

    This thread is not what I thought it was about at all...


    Figure on a clutch replacement. Google it up to see what it takes. It's not like changing brake pads.
    that's my biggest worry on these bikes. Everything else is easily serviced and NBD to get parts for, really.
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    :lol3

    Don't forget to bring your towel!
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  16. motomike14

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    Going from the above, check any signs of main shaft/clutch issues. Otherwise, I wouldn't be nervous of buying one of those. Incredibly stupid reliable. I had a Buell that went 75,000 miles with nary an issue; sure that Beemer has another 25-30k left before you start worrying.
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  17. birch

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    Owner claims the clutch was serviced a couple seasons ago when working on the spline (I don't know what that means?)

    Also that the drive and para lever bushings all checked out. Gave me mechanics info if I wanted to confirm.

    It does vibrate pretty hard at start up. Is that just being a boxer?

    Would need to get bags, maybe lower pegs and I think I could be set. So another $600-$700. Then I saw a repainted same year with 60k less miles and bags for $5200. Is 60k miles worh $2500?
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  18. opmike

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    I personally would have a hard time buying a high mileage bike without something resembling a service history. If only a single owner was responsible for the majority of the mileage and he didn't happen to have records, I'd pick his brain to figure out if he's the kind of guy that knew what the hell he was doing. Usually, it's pretty easy to figure out if the owner was clueless and treated the thing like his lawnmower.

    I'm currently on the hunt for an RC51, and talking to some of these owners just makes me want to keep the shit I'm already riding. It's amazing how rough even bikes with a measly 10,000 miles can look.
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  19. greenmtrider

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    I bought a 1993 k1100lt with only 15k miles in great shape. I spent many hours researching the whole line of BMW motor bikes. The K bike was a great deal at only $3,000.00. If I keep it long enough I should get 80k on the speedo before having to put any major work into it. If I were you do some reading ask dealers and other owners for there opinion. Can we all recomend on what to do after the buy?, sure.
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  20. kraven

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    1. It depends on how many miles were "a couple seasons ago."

    2. Call the mechanic and confirm.

    3. Vibes at start up is pretty common over 100k, depending. Probably needs to be tuned.

    4. A low miles bike will be cheaper. But, you have to buy what's in your budget.
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