How long can I ride on temporary bike registration for?

Discussion in 'Europe' started by Khabel, Aug 18, 2017.

  1. Khabel

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    Ive recently arrived in London for the start of my 3 month Western Europe tour and am about to purchase a bike. Can I ride for 3 months using the temp paperwork or do I need to wait around for up to 2 weeks for the permenant?
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  2. nickguzzi

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    In the UK all the legally required documents are stored on police accessible computers, so as long as you have tax, insurance and MOT you will be OK. (and a licence valid where you are from).

    Reading the UK motoring organisations re EU travel, they say other countries require the originals. But no one in UK get an "original" anymore, just a print out.
    They also say you should carry the registration document, which in UK is the V5 - this is not a title, it clearly says it not proof of ownership - it is essentially only so you can be pestered for money, road tax renewal and traffic fines etc, and so they know where you live.
    This is what will be sent to the address you give. This will be the only "official" document you will have*.

    Others from various other European countries have said on here that the registration/title is NOT required - so who knows. The motoring orgs are certainly not immune to mistakes.

    * I have never been asked to show the V5 abroad (you would never be asked in the UK) only licence and insurance, back in the old days. Border crossings pre Schengen used to different. Perhaps out of the EU and into "wilder" places it is still "we're bored officials, we'll fuck you around because we can".
    Re entry back into the UK is likely to be the biggest bullshit experience - because we can...

    I put all the legal crap in a plastic wallet and on the increasingly rare instance of me being stopped - say the last 10 years out of 50, I just hand over the wallet, no comment - let them see what they want. It also has ferry tickets, any reservations, lists of restaurants and markets - my to do list.

    So if you don't want to wait around, get the dealer to give you a proper receipt, with as many rubber stamps as they have, printed letter head, signed across a stamp type bullshit, the works. If they just print out a till receipt, then you know what to do.
    I can't imagine a situation where a V5 will magically extract you from the mire. It's absence or presence will make no difference.
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  3. Mark Manley

    Mark Manley Long timer

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    You could arrange for someone at the address you are using in the UK to forward it to you while on the road, it should take 3-4 days to most places in Europe.
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  4. Snafu2

    Snafu2 Been here awhile

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    I've been asked for my V5 many times in main land EU and several times at EU-UK border and once for a vehicle I had on a trailer for which I got a spot fine of 90franc for not producing it. It may well have changed now.
    Make sure your insurance covers you for extended periods out of the UK, some only cover you fully for 30 days but all give you minimum cover for the full period of insurance.
    The V5 should take less than a week, I had one by return post last week. insurance should be printable at point of sale, road tax is an electronic register so nothing to carry but you can check online.

    Have fun
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  5. Khabel

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    Perfect, thanks.
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    To reinforce earlier comment, in Belgium this summer I was asked by police for V5 as they were checking vehicles were not stolen.

    And once you get outside Europe it will be requested frequently. I now carry a laminated colour copy which works a treat!


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  7. Snafu2

    Snafu2 Been here awhile

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    DVLA have recently made changing the V5 an online option, you do get to keep the green section 10 newkeeper details from the old V5. you can tax the vehicle using that.
    https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle
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  8. Khabel

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    So been 6 days and still no sign of it arriving. I have insurance, tax and mot as well as the green slip section 10.

    Will that be enough?

    Getting itchy feet waiting for it to arrive
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  9. Cal

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    Is the insurance under your name and was it hard to get since you are not a resident?
    Thanks
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  10. nickguzzi

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    I can't answer for Khabel, but as a Brit, insurance is a stand alone item. You need it to get your bike taxed. But you don't even need to own the vehicle to insure it. Those people will take your money whatever.

    For quite a while, multi-rider insurance has been more difficult and usually lots more expensive. UK insurance mostly has a good rider clause - the "No Claims Bonus"*. This makes it painful to make a low value claim when you will loose the 70% rebate, and take years to build back up. This acts as a huge deterent to even lending someone your bike - even if they have legal minimum cover themselves.
    If someone rides your bike (on the road) with permission, but without insurance, then you are both committing a crime.
    *Note: it says "claims", not blame. So even if not your fault, a claim is a claim and you loose. (but we can sell you another policy to mitigate that...).
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