How Long Will My 2016 Africa Twin Last?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by dwj - Donnie, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. dwj - Donnie

    dwj - Donnie Long timer

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    One item I forgot to mention on the comments about the trip to the US. I ran the moto in D mode all except for maybe 25 miles. I have gotten to the point that I use the shift buttons almost without thinking about it. It has become second nature so to speak, the same way that I would shift up and down with the manual transmissions, except better!

    I did notice after arriving home that I have far less tire life left than I thought! I may have to buy tires here in Mexico, which means I will probably be limited to Shinko 705s! They would have been my second choice in the US, I actually want TKC70s. I was expecting 12,000 to 14,000 from the tires, but it looks like 10,000, maybe 10,500 will be the maximum, especially for the rear. However, all but 600 miles on the moto has been two up and loaded.

    I am in the process of doing the 8,000 mile service. No issues found.

    My step daughter and I rode to Cuernavaca yesterday for lunch and looking for places with big moto tires. Only had a mostly empty trunk. We rode 160 miles, almost all of which was in the mountains with constant curves, inclines and declines or in town, so I was on and off the gas a lot. I tried to hold the moto to 60 MPH, more over a bit than under. It got 54.3 MPG.
  2. jyrays

    jyrays The Wanderer

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    Why you use G mode on normal riding?
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    dwj - Donnie Long timer

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    Hahaha. That should have been a D! I will change it.
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    I changed my oil to the Honda Pro HP4S Full Synthetic 10W-30 on this oil change.
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    I was able to find Continental TKC70s on-line in Mexico City! Ordered Monday, received today! They cost about 50% more in Mexico, but I am not complaining. We will be doing a short trip in a week or so, the tires won't be changed till after the trip.
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    Davidjohnson Been here awhile

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    Motomochila Moto Scientist and time traveler

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    Ride it like you stold it, keep the filters clean, change the oil when needed and don't worry. If you are having fun and your AT is doing what you ask of it, then why worry how long it will last. Worrying how long it will last is only important if you are trying to get to point B from where you are now.
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    dwj - Donnie Long timer

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    We did the trip, but I still have not changed the tires.
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    I just installed the TKC70s at 10,297 miles. The OEM tires were great for me! I am interested in how the TKC70 will do. Continental claims these tires approach the longevity of the Tourances and the off-road capability of the TKC80s. I have my doubts about this claim, but the tread pattern seems a little more aggressive than the OEMs, time will tell on longevity. I have the pair I sourced in Mexico that I just installed and another pair in Texas at my daughter's, so I will have a good look at them.

    BTW, the OEM rear tire was extremely easy to remove. The Outex tubeless kit on the rear looked pretty good, except for one two inch length strip that is on either side of the stem where the protective covering had some air bubbles and did not want to seal down well. The front Outex had some curling on the edges of both layers that had hardened pretty well and would not stick back down. Neither wheel was leaking before or after the new tires were installed. I am probably a little more concerned about the longevity of the front Outex than the rear, but not enough yet to carry a tube.

    The moto is being prepped for a two month tour of the USA as soon as my stepdaughter graduates college here in Mexico. We ride very little locally. There are not that many roads in Mexico relative to the USA and where I currently live in Mexico is prime drug growing country, so you do not venture out on the minor side roads going up into the mountains and the outback. It is off limits to the police and military as well!

    We have traveled more than 6,000 miles in the last five or six weeks, but that was in the car going for my wife's Permanent Residency Visa Interview and then for her first trip into the USA. Now we will be returning to the USA on the moto!

    I have a HYPERPRO progressive spring at my daughter's house that I will install when we get there as well.

    The most recent car trip was three weeks. The moto battery was totally down when we returned! I thought it was out for the count, but it charged back up and is doing "OK", but not looking that great on the volt meter. I will change it when I get to Texas. Batteries for large motos are difficult to come by in Mexico and cost two to three times more than in the US. I don't think I will put another OEM battery on the moto, I have read of too many issues. I had a lithium on a KTM and did not like it for cold weather, plus the battery booster I am carrying is not compatible with lithium battery, or maybe it just can't be charged by a lithium battery, can't remember. I may just get one of the $50 Chinese battery. I have a bit of insurance with the booster. Any suggestions?
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    RustySpokes Ordinary average guy

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    I've had really good luck with name brand AGM (absorbent glass mat) batteries. Basically the same as comes in the AT stock. I wonder if some of the AT batteries were discharged or otherwise mistreated before customers got them, mine cranks a tiny bit slow after sitting or in the cold.

    The original battery in my VStrom lasted 11 years before I chickened out and replaced it.

    I've used Yuasa brand for years.
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    I've done 12,000km on my TKC70's on my transalp in Europe, still have a few thousand kms left. Longevity seems good. Grip is excellent.

    In New Zealand our chip tar seal roads can be harsh on tires so they do not last as long.
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    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    Keep an eye on the suspension thread, the forks may be the "first thing to go" on the average Africa Twin...
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    The conversation on that thread is curious, seems to be more related to riding on rougher surfaces at pace, the types of conditions that causes fork flex. Of the pictures I have seen the marking on the inside is not excessive. Still, it shouldn't be happening.
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    Take care of it and it will easily outlast you. Its a Honda.
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    My position is simple. Carry a spare fork seal and don't worry about it. I have neither read the Suspension Thread nor do I plan to. Even if it is a weak link on the moto there is nothing I can do about it at this point. I definitely will not be getting all worked up about internet problems real or imagined. I still remember reading about a new KTM 1190 owner reporting dust in his air box after a 12 mile ride from his dealer to his home, all on pavement. I am not declaring that there will never be an issue with the front forks, only that I will deal with it if and when it is a problem on my moto.
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    Mine are pretty real considering the dealer is replacing my upper tubes at 7200 miles.Carry a spare fork seal lol.Would love to watch someone replace a fork seal on this bike on the road.
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    michaeln What're YOU lookin' at?

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    Are you also going to carry all the tools necessary to change that fork seal on the road? I doubt you could do it with the screwdriver, 5mm allen and fuse puller Honda supplies in the "toolkit".
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    I hope I don't have that issue with mine, but yes, I have changed fork seals on other motos on the road a couple times. But more times than not, they can weep for thousands of miles and you won't loose one ounce of fluid and if you do, top it off. So what did you do, sit at home and wait for them to start leaking? Not trying to be a smart a$$, but you either ride it or do don't.

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    See my response above. I mostly live and ride in Mexico/Central America, I have never rode anything down here that did not have a leaky seal at one time or another

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    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    I was simply noting it was something to keep an eye on, I made no inference that it should cause anyone anxiety. I'm still riding!

    What use is a spare fork seal without a bottle of oil? I carry a Seal Doctor.
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