How Long Will My 2016 Africa Twin Last?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by dwj - Donnie, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. dwj - Donnie

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    I don't know that there would be that much advantage. It mostly depends on how you would use the moto. Maybe the nc is better for your use. I thought your question was, would I keep the nc if I was going to purchase an African Twin? For me, I would not keep both.
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    We went to the Honda dealership in Greenville, MS to get the battery replaced Sept 12. This is where I bought the moto. They didn't charge me for the battery, they will bill me if Honda does not cover the battery under warranty. I have already cranked it this morning with the auxiliary lights and high beam on. It cranks much better and the volt meter did not drop below 10.5 volts. It had been dropping down to 9.5 volts before with the lights on low beam, no auxiliary lights, plus the engine would turn over very slow. [​IMG]

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    I pulled the rear shock off the moto last night with Modesta's help and installed a progressive spring from Hyper Pro. It sits a little higher now. I dialed in 10 clicks of pre-load, where I had been using 25 to 27 on the OEM spring. That is for two up and heavily loaded. We are on the road now for almost two months, so it will get field tested very soon!

    The spring had arrived at my daughters house, just after we left last time or it would have already been installed. As always the first time is by far the most difficult! The four plus hours could be done in ninety minutes next time! What I learned on reinstalling the shock, that would have saved a lot of time and my skin is to tie the Rocker Arm back to gain clearance. I am talking about the part that the shock bolts to at the bottom. To completely remove this would be even more helpful!

    But, it is on now and all is good! I had used this product on a R1100GS years ago and it worked very well!

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    Modesta and I rode about 75 miles in the Dallas Metroplex today. The trunk was loaded, but the saddlebags were mostly empty. A very nice improvement with the new spring! Less pogo, less bouncy, more planted and smoother over expansion joints and surface irregularities. Even Modesta noticed that it was smoother! Once we are fully loaded and in the twisty mountain roads, I will play with the pre-load a bit. It is currently at ten clicks, I don't think it will need more, maybe even less. It was at 25 to 27 clicks with the OEM spring.

    Happy with the modification!
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    Yeah, I love my AT with the new Ohlins, fitted also with a heavier spring. The heavier spring makes a lot of difference.
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    I changed the oil and filters at Tracy's. It was about 2,000 miles early, but we will be on the road for the next month, mostly sleeping at a different location each night, so I did it early. We rode 370 miles to north Texas yesterday. The moto was fully loaded and cruising at 80MPH. I can absolutely recommend the rear spring upgrade! It substantially improved what was already a good ride!
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    We are about 5,400 miles into our current trip. I had to tighten a radiator hose a few days ago due to a few drops of water. I had been smelling antifreeze for quite a while, but never saw where it was coming from.

    Here are some photos of the
    TKC70s. They have 6,898 miles on them and need to last another 3,500 to get back to my daughter's house where I have a new pair. I have concerns that the rear will last that long![​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    You should lean more so tire wears equally :rofl
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    I had quite a surprise yesterday! As I was warming up the moto I realized the Tire Pressure Monitor System was only showing one pound of air in the rear tire! It has had the Outex system for almost 17,000 miles without an issue on the rear. I did have to reapply with heat a single spoke location on the front once. On the last tire change I inspected the Outex for any spots that appeared to be losing contact and all seemed fine. The tire was not leaking the day before, because I periodically check the TPMS read out, that always displays the pressure. The moto was on the center stand for the night, because I had oiled the chain. I took the wheel off the moto, broke the tire down, removed it off the rim on one side to give good access to the problem location. The sealing tape had a large air bubble and the protective tape that covers it had come unattached. I took the wheel/tire into my hotel room and used the hair dryer to heat the are up and re-stuck the tape. Since then, I have rode over 200 miles with out any loss of pressure. I have not went down and checked it this morning. I do not have any of the very small amount of extra tape they supplied for repairs, but I do have the silicone type material that I used on my KTMs to eliminate the tube. This was a significant leak! It went from 41 pounds to 1 pound sitting over night. The leak I had on the front was a very small leak. I supposed one could say that maybe I did not install the Outex correctly, but it worked for over nine months and almost 17,000 miles before failing. I may start carrying the repair tape as well as the silicone in the future.

    I am not saying the Outex system is undependable, but it has given me cause for concern! You need a heat source to reapply the tape. I used the sun on the issue with the front. But, it was cold and cloudy this day. You also need a high capacity air source to seal the tire onto the rim. The small supply of air from my small air pump simply leaks out without sealing the tire to the rim.
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    I left this photo out.[​IMG]

    BTW, it was my Birthday, so maybe it was a gift from my moto! hahaha

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    Bummer, why not drop them an email and let them know what happened. Might be helpful if they can ID the cause.

    outex-72@mrj.biglobe.ne.jp

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    I just checked. Flat again![​IMG]

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    When my Outex failed there was no repairing it...
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    Outex sold me a "repair kit" for half off... That's the one I offered you as I have not installed it yet.
    I finished my trip with a tube, though the first tube I put in punctured and had to be replaced.

    I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip without any issues.
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    I have a tube in as well. I think I will cut out a circle around the leaking area and use Goop on it, like I used on my KTM 990s. BTW, the spoke next to the valve stem hole is where mine is leaking. It is leaking away from the valve stem hole. the cover come off, allowing a leak to form. Had a rim strip been in place, it might have prevented it.
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    My Africa Twin is my workhorse, i really trust it. Cant even think that it would not work. I will neve ride 100000 miles with it, but i keep my 2016 AT, i will not sell it.

    Japanese cars are really reliable as wel.

    But it would be interesting to know which Rolex you have owned as i have owned Rolex watches for 30 years and they are lightyear ahead in reliability compared to any watch. In 30 years, not a single issue and always precise. I have made service once in 7-10 years, which is cheap by the way.
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    And I would be careful about overstating the reliability of any one manufacturer over another too. True some brands have better reputations for reliability over others and Honda is one of those, but even then there are variations between models within the brand.

    The Africa Twin is not free from issues. It has been built to a price point and some of that is coming home to roost if the bike is pushed beyond its design limit. Some faults are appearing within the intended use of the bike's design.

    But on the whole, it is a good bike. Mine has been trouble free, my friend's has not.
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    We are on a one month plus into a two month trip and the tires I expected to last till I arrived to my daughter's house in the Dallas, Texas area where I have another set waiting, looks like they aren't going to last that long! We are currently in the San Francisco, California area and looking for tires. Ideally, I want Shinko 705s, 90/90-21 and 150/70-18 tubeless. Continental TKC70s or the OEM tires for the African Twin will work as well. For the record, at 8,453 miles, the rear TKC70 has little life left and the front is badly cupped. The rear has not seemed to show any wear in the last 500 to 600 miles, but I still have 2,000 miles to go! The OEM tires were replaced at 10,297 miles and had at least another 500 miles in them, which is why I expected the TKC70 to last till Texas.

    Thanks!
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    have a day/date two tone, a presidential and a GMT. All of which do NOT keep time as well as my timex, seikos or casio G shocks.
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    To Donnie, Doug at Santa Clara Cycle can get some tires on for you, even open weekends. They have done a bunch for me. If you get in a real jam I have the OEM AT take offs in my storage unit I will never use. Maybe 500 miles on them.
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    An inmate in the Phoenix area give me a pair of tires with about 4,000 miles on them. He even put us up for the night, help me mount them and took us to his daughter's excellent Choir Recital! BTW, the damaged place on the Outex looked great after 1,000 miles plus of the tube being in there pressing against it. I think I will put the OEM rim strip back in when I return to Mexico and see if it holds. BTW, I do not recall Outex saying to put the rim strip on top of their system, but I definitely think you should! This issue started with the protective cover curling up. A rim strip may have prevented that.

    The moto turned over 21,000 miles today, almost 9,200 miles on this trip so far. I had to tighten a radiator hose a while back, other than that, I need to adjust my Parking Brake, which seems to be doing very little. I will change the oil in a day or two, plus I will check the valves when we return to Mexico.