How Long Will My 2016 Africa Twin Last?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by dwj - Donnie, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. scott123007

    scott123007 Been here awhile

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    The previous posts covered those.
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    Maby you can help me pick out a adv monster lite set up.We have alot of deer on the roads and in the ditches up here.I have hit 3 on motorcycles and am trying to pick a better lite set up.would the off road floods work better or are they to short on range.Would I be better off running one of each type?.I never purchased aftermarket lites and do not want to waste money.I try not to ride at dusk but sometimes it happens.I have a iron butt this summer in the u.p and would like better lighting for the nite portion.
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    Mine work very well and cost $100 with the HD mounting bracket. http://stores.advmonster.com/model-30-led-off-road-spot-light/ I am powering them with the OEM plug that works off my high beam. They are mounted to my crash bars that are already drilled and tapped for lights. Because of this, my installation cost was $0. ADV Monster also have flood lights and other products. I would recommend that you send them an email and ask for their recommendations.
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    We returned today from a nine day 750 mile ride traveling around the various Pueblos Magicos in Mexico. Two up with saddlebags, trunk and heavily loaded. Most of this riding is on less than good roads with countless pot holes and speed bumps. I did increase the pre-load on the rear shock to 25 clicks and it seems to have improved the ride. I have one turn of pre-load over the OEM setting on the front forks and will probably try another full turn. We have millions of speed bumps in Mexico and some are quite high. I have actually drug the belly pan a few times.

    The moto continues to operate very well and I am very satisfied. The cumulative MPG of the trip was a bit over 51 miles per gallon. Good for close to 250 miles on a tank of fuel! Max speed was 70 MPH which was used for maybe 150 miles, the rest went from 45 to 65 depending on road conditions. A little bit of testing at slower speeds suggest you could increase that to probably 65 MPG and 325 miles on a tank if you kept the speeds at 50 to 55 MPH with soft throttle input. I can't say that I actually want to do this, but if you were in a situation that you really needed to get the most out of a tank of gas, it is nice to know its limits.

    Total mileage is about 5,100 miles.
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  8. MrKiwi

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    @dwj - Donnie - With some miles under your belt, do you think the rear spring is OK for two up with gear, or do you think a change to a slightly firmer one might be worth the effort?
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    Yes, I think it needs a heavier spring, but I have not yet decided if I am going to change it.

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    This last trip had us at high altitude, but relativity flat surfaces, very different than around home where the terrain is both curvy and mountainous. At home coming out of sharp curves is often met with steep inclines.

    While this is a bit of a shock to me, as down shifting with my thumb has become more natural, using the "D" mode on the DCT has become more useful! If you stay on the gas a bit as you accelerate, the DCT will not up shift in a quick pattern. Of course, if you are very light on the gas, it will be in sixth by the time you are going 40 MPH. The more I use the DCT, the more I like it, plus the more I use it, the better I learn how to tailor it to my different riding styles under different circumstances. The folks that think the DCT is a no-brainer type riding experience, could not be further from the truth!
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    I agree. My experiences so far lead me to conclude there are two ways to ride a bike with DCT.

    1 - just let the bike do it (the default only way the bike will work belief by many who don't like DCT have). If you ride the bike this way you will be inevitably be disappointed. It is akin to riding a twist and go scooter, albeit with gear changes.

    2 - Actively manage the gears while riding in DCT mode. Choose the right ride setting for the terrain and let the bike do most of the work. BUT, learn to use the finger paddle shifts to shift seamlessly up and down when you need to. This way the bike performs how you want it to perform. You'll like the bike when riding in this manner.

    Consequently I am always experimenting with the different mode settings for different terrain and different load weights on the bike.
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    I had earlier increased the pre-load on the front susencion one full turn from OEM settings. I decided to increase it one additional full turn for a trial, but first I totally reduced pre-load to make sure they were even. Apparently the were not set the same from the factory, because the left was at 10.5 turns and the right was at 9.5 turns. I think on the DCT, they both should ave been 8.5 full turns from the factory, but of course, I had increased pre-load one full turn, so the left was one full turn more than OEM before I adjusted it. They are both now set at 11 full turns. Total adjustment possible is 15 turns according to the owner's Manual.
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    let me know how that works for you?
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    You will not notice a huge difference. The front spring is super progressive which makes it super unsensitive.
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    I leave tomorrow for my quarterly trip to visit my daughter and granddaughter in the Dallas, TX area. The settings on the moto are the same as I have been using for Modesta and myself, plus the additional full turn on the front pre-load I have already posted about and I reduced the pre-load on rear shock to 15 clicks. I will be lightly loaded going to Texas, but heavily loaded and one up when I return. The moto has over 5,000 miles on it now. The only miles I have ridden it solo was from Mississippi to Texas when I picked it up. Those 600 miles included no saddlebags, trunk or crashbars, plus I had made no adjustments to the suspension. So, this will be the first "adjusted" solo ride. I will ride at least 2,500 miles on the moto, 3,500 if I visit my cousin in North Texas. I generally average a much higher average MPH on these type rides. I will let y'all know how it goes.
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    I made another addition to my moto. Notice the crashbar bags and the bags under the seat. A little extra capacity.[​IMG]

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    I rode from Iguala, Guerrero to Texas starting last Monday and arriving to the Dallas area early Wednesday. Everything went great with the moto performing perfect! I have ridden at an indicated 80 MPH, which is actually 78, as much as conditions allowed. There was a strong head or quartering wind for the last 500 miles. The moto is still getting better than 43 MPG under those conditions. Total mileage so far is 1,298.
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    I made an addition to the moto today. A pair of Holan Lower Crashbars to match the upper Holans already on the moto.[​IMG][​IMG]

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    I arrived home today from my 16 day trip. The moto odometer registered 3,365 miles, of course, it has a 2% error. I also put 1,600 miles on the car I keep in Texas. My GPS, which was on all except for about 50 miles registered 4,803 miles.

    I have checked my miles per gallon, correcting for odometer error a number of times and I have verified that I usually get 2 MPG better that the moto computer says. Having said that, the first 800 miles, which was from 4,000 to 8,200 feet elevation, but mostly above 6,000 delivered 45 MPG riding at an indicated 80 MPH, which is 78 MPH on the GPS. As the elevation went lower, so did the MPG, speeds stayed the same. I did change from pure regular gas to Corn "enriched" gasoline one I crossed the border into Texas. On the return trip and until I reached 4,000 feet of elevation, the total average MPG steadily dropped. It was down to 36.7 by the time I reached 4,000 feet in Mexico. The total mileage at that time was about 2,700 miles. Then the Average MPG begin to slowly increase until I reached 6,000 feet, at which time it began increasing more quickly. By the time I got home, my average MPG for the entire trip of 3,365 miles was 39.8 MPG.

    I am sure some of the dropping of MPG was due to the Corn "enrichment", but much of it was due to elevation changes. I did not document it separately, but watching the instant MPG read out, it seemed to be getting about 6 MPG better at altitude. I was not expecting it to be that much! At any rate, I am not complaining, 39.8 MPG running 80 MPH as much as possible, plus heavily loaded for the 1,250 mile ride back home is very very good in my opinion. BTW, there was one 55 Liter bag on the back seat with a 50 liter bag on top of it, plus a 10 liter bag on top of the trunk.

    I have decided that I will upgrade the spring on the rear shock in the future. I am not for sure, but I think it is sagging a bit more as the miles have accumulated. Plus loaded with Modesta and me, I have the pre-load turned to 68% of its max. I always thought, it was best not to exceed 50% of this limit. Anyway, it is only a $140! I will order a Hyperpro progressive spring from EPM Performance Imports before I return to the US. I had one of those on my 1996 R1100GS and it worked quite well!

    Total mileage on the moto is now at 8,459 miles.
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    Interested in your spring choice.

    My AT definitely sagged on my recent 2500km ride loaded up with just me and gear. I need to a heavier spring I think.
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