How much weight and what do you carry in your airhead underseat tool tray?

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by mfp4073, Feb 6, 2011.

  1. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    Seems like mine weighs a lot. Was cracked in several places when I got the bike, made some repairs but its cracking again. Will weigh it after the glue dries. What I carry,

    Multi screwdriver (the kind with the bits in the handle)
    8mm, 10mm, 12mmx2 wrench
    Crescent wrench, medium size
    1/4 drive ratchet wrench, sockets up to 13mm and 9/16ths
    1/4 drive short extension
    extra spark plug,
    Spark plug socket
    1 small alligator clip wire
    small pair vice grips
    Allen Key set
    Allen key for turning engine over
    Feeler gauges
    tire pressure gauge
    Small LED flashlight

    1 clean white t shirt in plastic bag (for getting caught in rain or as a grease rag, or as a signal)
    cable lock (masterlock python)
    1 small dry bag


    So, am I going overboard and abusing my tray? Dont have saddle bags, so it all needs to go in there.

    Edit, few things I forgot,
    tire schrader valve tool
    wire brush
    Longish bolt for front caliper removal/adjustment.
    $2.25 in quarters. For emergency tolls, parking meters, dinner.
    Box cutter knife
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  2. nowhereman

    nowhereman I'm lost -don't follow me

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    I carry the factory BMW tool set, supplemented with -

    Folding feeler gauge
    Mini-mag light with a 'mouth bit' on it
    Spare set of plugs
    Crescent wrench

    That's about all that will fit with the lid still closing on it. I carry more tools in my panniers tho (metric ratchet, little 'slime' air pump, tire repair stuff, stack o' skin mags, etc.).
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  3. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    What all is in that and how much do you think you have total in there?
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  4. DaveBall

    DaveBall Long timer

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    Stock tool kit with a few additions.
    Multi-bit screwdriver
    feeler gauges
    2 spare spark plugs
    1 spare headlight bulb
    small Mag light
    tire pressure gauge

    As I ride and RT, I also stuff a spare front and rear tube in the pockets of the fairing.

    Never needing anything more while touring. I tend to be very minimalistic. Take what I know I can use on the side of the road to get me somewhere to do permanent repairs.

    Others will tell you to take everything in your garage, and your two neighbors garages as well.

    Oh, and I NEVER use vicegrips on an airhead.

    Most of the stuff you list is actually in the stock tool kit, or at least should have been there when new.
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  5. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    I learned long ago that nothing stored under seat of a later model airhead is safe.

    On all three of mine, I don't run side covers and I don't run even the tool box.

    I keep the tools somewhere else.
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  6. Screaming Chicken

    Screaming Chicken Been here awhile

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    Set of allens
    Set of ring spanners
    Multi screwdriver
    Suspension wrench
    Stick of epoxy
    Little double action bike pump
    Bowden cable emergency repair kit
    Some zipties
    Tape
    Rag

    No idea what it weighs but it's nice and central so I don't really care. :-)

    Though I've been considering building a new under seat tray of some kind, given that I've ditched the old 25Ah car battery for a PC680 mounted across the frame, and now have a gaping hole there that can be filled with Stuff. :evil

    It'd be nice if I could get the old Cyclelok six arm in there so I could lose the top box.
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  7. nowhereman

    nowhereman I'm lost -don't follow me

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    Well, here is a pic of the tool kit from Max's website :

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    THe tool kit is pretty complete - I've been able to do a number of small repairs / tweaks without anything more than the stock tool kit.
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  8. rufusswan

    rufusswan Been here awhile

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    I have no idea what the tools weight, and I don't care. First shit-can the tool roll, yea it's cool but it takes up a bunch of space, then nail the cheap linemans plier onto the shop wall.

    Add two standard screwdrivers and one of those pocket thingys that salesmen pass out. It has a reversible shank and a magnet on the end. Then add a small needle nose and a pair of mini-dykes. I now have some needle nose Vise-Grips which repaired a broken clutch cable. A 1/4" swivel head socket handle and some sockets, or a few spare 8-to-14 wrenches.

    Dismantle or cut off the 3 feeler guages needed for points & valves.

    Cut yourself two 12x16" towels. Put one in the tool tray, add the tools tuck up the extra cloth. Insert the 3 feeler guages into a zip lock with 8' of wire, a bit of elec. tape, a small piece of emory paper, $20+ cash, working/tested set of points/condesor, zip ties and a pair of new plugs. Place on top of tools. Add spare brake and clutch cable, multimeter, cover with 2nd towel.

    If you can keep the nuts/bolts/screws attached to the bike, diagnose & repair electrical stuff, replace ignition stuff, and keep air in the tires, you can ride the bitch home.
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  9. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    Well it does not sound like I am overloading it, see a few things in your lists I could add in very easily. And that the tool tray cracking is not due to me trying to fit too much in there!

    Good suggestions!

    I took off the needed feeler gauges, including the one for the points that I bent at an angle (makes it so much easier to work with), and put them in a small case to protect them from getting damaged.

    I figured only one spark plug to save space and weight, what are the chances both sides would fail and need to be replaced?
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  10. dduelin

    dduelin Be Thou My Vision, Oh Lord Of My Heart

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    Except for a couple long weekend trips to the mountains each year my airhead riding is 100 to 300 mile day rides.....so the stock tool roll, a bit of paper towel or a cloth rag, a spare spark plug, fuses, a tire valve cap that tightens schrader valves and a disc to set under the kickstand foot for soft soil is all that is under the seat. On a long trip I add a spare rotor and tool to remove it, tire irons, tube, spare diode board, some wax paper funnels and qt. of oil. Of course most of this stuff goes in a tail or tank bag.
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  11. rufusswan

    rufusswan Been here awhile

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    A logical point, that makes no freekin' sense. That's about like buy new shoes one at a time.:rofl
    At $3 apiece, plugs are the best, quickest and cheapest 'test' of faulty running.
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  12. dduelin

    dduelin Be Thou My Vision, Oh Lord Of My Heart

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    I don't even carry 1 new one, I just keep one of the old ones I replace with new ones every major service. After all they were working just fine when I took them out.....If I need a known good one to get home I have one. What are the odds I'll need two on the side of the road? On the other hand, a couple of times in my life I have gotten a faulty plug right out of a new box.
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  13. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    good thoughts on that. Carrying the extra stuff is not to do regular interval service, its there for testing and or repairing to get you home. Sometimes having a "new" part is less reliable than having a known working part.
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  14. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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    well now, I have spare plugs,
    cloth
    CDI
    tool roll (fully loaded)
    heat paste
    cable ties
    stanley blade
    service details (torque settings, plug gaps, all the usual stuff)
    fuses
    and a few nuts and bolts.:deal
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  15. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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    and I forgot the most useful item, an angle valve adaptor for topping up the air..:evil
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  16. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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    +1:clap
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  17. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    Ok, need explanation on these?
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  18. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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    Angle valve adaptor..... everyone carries one of these right?

    [​IMG]

    if not how do you top up your tyres with the panniers fitted?
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  19. mfp4073

    mfp4073 Long timer

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    Gotcha! No panniers on mine. I am kinda anti saddle bag on my current bike for all but extreme circumstances.

    my stash, decided to add some electrical tape

    [​IMG]
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  20. Grider Pirate

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    Stock tool bag, plus
    Digital tire pressure guage
    4 way screwdriver
    Thickness guages

    I also keep some fuses and bulbs in a custom cut chunk of foam that lives in the main backbone tube.
    After looking at what other people carry, I'm going to add the 90 degree tire valve extender.
    Squish, why do you not use the tool box? My /5 box is fine with 37 years and 200k plus, and my '95 PD box is fine at 70,000 miles. I agree about the sidecovers though. My RS sidecovers will reside on a shelf until I decide to sell it.
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