How to get proof of ownership for a bike w/no title

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by D0N, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. Spooch

    Spooch n00b

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    Received my plate today and what seems to be the registration. The registration is a copy of the the form I filled out with some markings on it and a stamp with the date and some other numbers including the fee I paid. Is this my registration?
  2. Tr25w

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    This works in California? I have a 69 z50 I want street legal.
  3. der_saeufer

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    Read up-thread :deal

    You'll get a sticker and a real registration card within a couple weeks. Until then, that form is your registration.

    If it's not actually street legal, a Vermont registration isn't going to help you. Even if Vermont plates it by mistake (unlikely), California will refuse to register it. If you're trying to dualsport it, just do it legally in California; the "no more dualsporting" rule changes a few years back were emissions-related, so they don't apply to bikes older than 1978.
  4. Spooch

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    Thanks der_saeufer.
  5. Spooch

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    Received the registration card and sticker yesterday. I checked the Vermont DMV website and it says vehicle must be inspected within a certain amount of days. Will they revoke your registration if the bike is not inspected?
  6. CJBDRdude

    CJBDRdude Dirtyrider

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    Nope! I've had a VT. registered/plated (73 Ossa) and (84 Suzuki PE) for several years. Never had an inspection done and I live in NY about 1/2 hour away from Bennington DMV. I only use the bikes maybe once or twice a year and its very little pavement time since they're offroad bikes, so I don't bother with inspection. Never had anyone or anything sent to me revoking anything. Just pay up the renewal in the spring and I'm good to go!
  7. Spooch

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    Thanks CJBDRdude!
  8. Ken F

    Ken F Been here awhile

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    Under 300cc doesn't require inspection. Don't know what size bikes you are comparing
  9. tdvt

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    Under 300cc doesn't get a title.

    If you've registered your bike, you're supposed to be inspected yearly.
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    CJBDRdude Dirtyrider

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    True - in any state I would guess, but I'm not going to put on a whole of of street legal stuff & dual sport tires, to go to VT. to get them inspected, just to come home and take all this stuff off to ride trails!:evil
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    I totally understand, I might not if I didn't live here. And it can depend on how particular your inspection guy is too. But most seem to be cool with knobbies & battered license plates.

    My comment was referring to the post just above mine.
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    But it's only enforced by the cops, unlike other states like Mass. where your registration gets suspended if the registry computer doesn't show an inspection. DAMHIK.

    Move to the West. What's an inspection :D (emissions tests for cars in cities, but we don't have "safety" inspections west of the Rockies at all, except Utah)
  13. nickyhype

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    Just wanted to check if anyone on here had any success doing this from Mass. I just bought my first bike, no title or last registration and got shut down by the RMV when I went to register. I'm planning on trying the VT route but wanted to see if anyone had any issues transferring the plates at the Mass RMV. The VIN on the bike is clean. It's a 1972 CB350.
  14. windburn

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    After getting my Vermont plates three months back. I did get stopped by police in my village there was no problem even though my drivers license was Ohio and my tags where Vermont. She asked about it and I said I registered it in Vermont. She was fine with that as everything was legal with documents. Today I made the final step and registered it in Ohio because it was a state to state transfer it was seamless and quick. The title office asked about the registration not being a title. I explained the no title law in Vermont for older bike. She briefly checked her computer then made out a new title. I then got my new plates and registration for Ohio. I was required to get an inspection at the license office. The inspection was to record the frame vin number onto a form that I was to take to the title office to get the title. Everyone was friendly helpful and quick.
  15. Grifter_500

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    Thank you for this great info. I am getting ready to trade a old car for a 1981 Honda CX-500. No title on the CX-500 so I am going to try this to get one. I am in Indiana which do title older bikes.

    I will have a Bill of Sale from the sale and have checked to make sure the bike is not stolen. My biggest question is has anyone else done this in Indiana and also with the Cx-500 being 497cc does it fall in the under 500 cc category?

    Any help would be a huge benefit. Thanks in advance. I stumbled upon this thread while searching google on how best to get a title for this bike. I just want to say what a great group of people and huge help this seems to be.
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    Quoting this so it appears again, and adding some more info. If you've done this recently, please correct anything I'm posting that is wrong.

    I'm ready to submit for my old Suzuki, and since we know how much the taxes are, I thought I'd have a crack at the fees.

    Vermont general DMV fee page


    Registration

    Payment Information

    Please adhere to the following guidelines when mailing a payment (unless other instructions are on the form/application being submitted):

    1. All payments must be for the correct amount.
    2. Payment must be made in U.S. Funds only.
    3. Submit a check or money order (do not send cash) payable to: Department of Motor Vehicles.
    4. Payment by “bad check” will result in additional fee assessment of $20.00.
    Acceptable payment methods-

    Mailed transactions

    • Personal or business check
    • Money order
    • No 2-party checks accepted
    Registration fees
    I could not properly copy & paste the below info, so I'm typing it in.
    Type of vehicle:
    Motorcycle, gas powered, 1 year is $44.00, two years is $88.00.

    DMV Mailing Address
    Department of Motor Vehicles
    120 State St.
    Montpelier, VT 05603-0001

    802-828-2000

    So in summary, what I'm seeing is tax @ 6% (minimum value $500) + $44.00 for a gas-powered bike. For a minimum $500 bike, the total is $74.00.

    Again, if I've missed anything here, please let me know and I'll update this post. My goal is to send one money order there and get what I need.

    UPDATE
    I thought before sending in money, I'd call to verify all they need is the $44 + tax (I'm used to like 10 fees and DMV add-ons here in FL). Calling the # I posted above sends you through a "press 1 for..." maze. If calling about registrations, it says your call may be answered by an inmate at one of our correctional facilities! There is also an option to talk to a DMV worker, so that is what I did. I spoke to Sharon and she verified for a 15+ year old over 500cc bike, the cost is $44 plus the tax. No other fees.
  17. Grifter_500

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    With a Honda CX-500 being 497 cc does anyone know if it would fall into the under 500 cc area?

    My bike is a 1981 Honda CX-500 (497 cc). I am trying to figure out what all forms I need to fill out and if I need to have the vin verified so that I can get a title on it.
  18. CS_0427

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    Reading the info above, since the ACTUAL displacement is 497cc, it is under 500cc. The manufacturer can call it an SUX6000 but if the actual displacement is only 5000 that is how it is registered. Since it is also over 15 years old, you'd use the KZ400 example from the info above.
  19. Grifter_500

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    Thanks so much. I was thinking that my self but my head was kinda spinning with the info and I was not sure on the 500 cc since it was so close.

    I will be sure to post update if this works and also when I get my Indiana title as well.
  20. der_saeufer

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    Looks like you got it. Just don't forget to send the bill of sale :rofl

    And yeah, 497 < 500, so that CX500 is fine--the form asks for the engine size specifically, so they'll see that the "500" is actually 497cc.