How to get proof of ownership for a bike w/no title

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by D0N, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. der_saeufer

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    Again, read the instructions that the State of Vermont helpfully publishes on their website. Motorcycles over 300cc and less than 15 years old are required to be titled.

    The answer is NO. If you don't already have a title for this bike you will get nothing from Vermont other than a letter telling you to submit the title or GTFO.
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    thanks for the help.
  3. ohgood

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    use south Dakota, then transfer to your state. easy peas.
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    Any particular county in South Dakota?
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    I am in the process of preparing the VT paperwork while I wait for the VIN inspection on the gp-zed just wanted to double check the fees.
    6% tax on $500 = $30 + $44 registration fee. $74 am I missing any fees?
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    Do the math based on nada value regardless of what you actually paid.
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    Will this work if I don't have the registration or the title of the bike?? Everyone keeps saying title, but I don't have either of the papers. What I will have is a bill of sale. Currently trying to buy a CB900 off someone I know. I live in RI and when I called the DMV they basically told me it was impossible and to "wipe my hands clean of the deal".... Lol some help. And as dumb as this sounds, will I need my license first to register this thing? Have to wait until spring for classes to open up for the license, other than dirtbikes this will be my first bike. Would really like to make it my first road bike and project bike. Thanks for any tips or help
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    All you need is a bill of sale from the seller. Sometimes it's easy, if you are friends with the seller, to just go through the lost title process in the state it was last titled if the seller simply can't find it. If you do go the VT route, you can register it with an out of state license and once issued, RI will issue a title against the VT registration. All of this is dependent on the year bike and it will still require a vin verification.
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    If you live in RI and can't plate it there, you're probably SOL... RI doesn't title anything before 2000 anyway, same as Vermont currently. If it's newer than 2000, whoever had it registered last needs to get a replacement title, and there is no other state you can use to 'beat the system'. If it's older than 2000, all you need in Rhode Island is a bill of sale.
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    Just read the super moto thread and use South Dakota.

    All you need is a bill of sale (use the SD form but make a friend sign it if you have no other recourse), affidavit (must be notarized & state the bike was last registered in a state that did not issue a title), application for title (all 3 docs available in the Super moto thread and SD DMV website).

    I have not tried this method but the guys on the Supermoto forums have.

    You also need a copy of your drivers license.

    Mail the docs along with a brief letter asking to be contacted upon calculation of fees due.

    Include your email and address.

    Expect an email within a week, pay by phone with a credit card.

    A week later you get your plate and registration. 3 weeks after you get a title.

    SD DMV is fast, their people are super helpful.

    Again, read that supermoto threat that was linked a few posts back.

    Those guys have done it.

    I personally did this last month. I used SD to register a car that I didn't want to put through the California registration BS.


    Edit: In September I used VT to register a "junked" non-running '03 ninja 250 with $1500 in California backfees and no title.

    F California backfees. (Originally from NYC, so this backfees nonsense is BS to me)

    Received my Vermont transferrable registration about 2 weeks after mailing docs.

    As others have said prior to 2000 Vermont will not issue titles. Additionally anything over 300cc requires a vin verification.

    Here in California its a pain in the ass.

    SD titles anything and requires no vin verification.
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    I just sent my money and forms into Vermont for my 67 Honda CT 90. I'll post the results.
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    I've read this thread through over and over for several months as different bikes come and go, but haven't tried it yet.
    Here's my DMV flavor of the day... I picked up a 1999 TTR225 with a bill of sale only, no title. Checked the VIN online and it's clean.
    HOWEVER, it has never been a street legal bike. it was built for off-road only.
    Nevada, like many states, will let you plate a dirt bike, but I NEED A TITLE FIRST.

    That's where I like Washington state better- with no title, you can register it (and ride it) for 3 consecutive years, and at the end of that 3 years, they'll give you a Washington title. Nevada DMV employees pretty much look for a reason to send you away rather than try to find a way to help.

    Any thoughts on how this might play out with Vermont or South Dakota? From everything I've read, I don't think it's gonna work.
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    Can't speak for South Dakota, but Vermont won't touch that without an inspection. Might be worth it if you were closer, but not from Nevada.

    Check with Nevada though--tons of states don't title dirt bikes, so you may be able to get off road paperwork in NV and go from there.
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    Yeah, that VP012 says right up on top "If an original Nevada Certificate of Title has been lost, stolen, or mutilated, a duplicate title may be applied for..."

    I think I'm gonna go the Nevada OHV route, which establishes ownership and gets the bike into their system, then see about titling and plating it after that.
    I have 2 of them, and a WR450 that's already plated, so it's not like I'm in a huge hurry with it.
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    Hi do I have to fill out both forms which are the same ? I meen there's 3 forms but 2 are the same one has the 2 black boxes ? Please help
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    Some help guys please I have a 1997 Honda shadow 1100cc is it possible I can get it registration plate for this through Vermont and also if so how do I have to fill out both forms which are the same ? I meen there's 3 forms but 2 are the same one has the 2 black boxes ? Please help
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    How do I get the address to send in the paper work and also how do I make the money order out to vt dmv
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    Can you please help me I'm not very good with paperwork do I sign both forms which are the same exact ones also where do I send the forms to if you can give me an address please and what info do I fill the money order to? Please