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Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Fixnfly, Dec 28, 2012.
when the gasoline police come, let me know.
If you try to cross into CA with one in your truck/car/etc, they will make you throw it away or leave it behind.
Fuck those things, at minimum get these from Tuff Jug:
Works kinda like a dry brake quick fill.
Can you tell me where these are available?
I've got a few of the newer ones that have that weird twist/valve things in the middle of the nozzle and they SUCK ASS. One ended up getting jammed in the closed position and essentially rendered the can useless. I ended up breaking the valve on it so the can would be usable. I also ended up just buying a funnel to keep on my rig so that if I have to fill it on the road, I can just dump the gas into the funnel without using the emission nozzle thing.
I agree the newer fuel cans are a pain to use and I think I spill almost a cup of fuel every time I use one. If you try to use one of them to fill a bike, generator, chainsaw, law mower, or anything that requires paying close attention to how close one is getting to the top of a small tank you're going to be disappointed.
Does anyone know what the real impetus was for the redesign? Are they SUPPOSED to reduce the flow rate or is it an attempt to reduce venting off-gases? They improve safety HOW? Less chance of the vapors being ignited?
Folks in these parts are hoarding their old cans with the vent caps on the back.
I remember this going on. Miami, OK isn't a big town, losing Blitz screwed the town's entire economy, at the worst time. But those lawyers won't be going hungry will they? What do they care?
And as others have pointed out, the newer cans are terrible. I've had good luck putting motorcycle-style schrader valves in them to act as vents. Take the core out, seal around the little nut with RTV, and put a metal valve cap with gasket on it. Safety wire optional.
These replace the cap
they have a vent (thats the small pipe sticking up) that goes into the cap via the nozzle.
The nozzle has a valve that allows you to turn the can upside down and nothing leaks, then as you press the nozzle into the fuel tank the valve opens and fuel runs out nice and quickly with no glugging.
Spills a bit when you pull it off the tank if it's full to the brim, but not much.
I guess these are illegal in California too :)
We used to carry chainsaw and lawnmower gas in a one gallon glass jug (empty vinegar jug). I guess we got lucky.
I converted my new diesel jug with a utility knife and added a vent hole with a #14 sheet metal screw I can take out with my fingers. I can't hold a full five gallons head high for the ten minutes of burping and trickling when filling up my tractor.
No Spill Jill FTW!
Those look like nice jugs.
How do you know that. Who has the authority to police these gas cans. I have one from 20 years ago, I love it and I not want to loose it, that's why I was asking.
Yeah - he says in the video he takes the valve out. Still don't think it's a good idea.
My old roomie and his family are avid dune riders (mostly quads) and we were told by one of their riding buddies who went down to ride a few months ago. Just like taking homegrown fruit or the like, they have the right to confiscate them apparently. I'm sure not all border stations WILL, but as I understand it, they can refuse entry into CA with one of the old style cans.
now i realize how ridiculous this is. i'm from wv. not mexico or canada. i was trying to figure out who was gonna take my stuff. i can cross into ca all i want with them jugs hanging off the antenna if i like. unless of course nevada has a border patrol
Crappy Tire and Princess Auto both carry them in Edmonton.
Bullshit. The inspection stations at or near California state line are Agricultural Inspections stations and nothing more. The same goes with the Border Patrol that has inspections points near the Mexico border. They don't have any authority to inspect for CARB compliance. Now if you happen to get pulled over by the CHP for some other infraction, you could get dinged IF you had California plates.
Anyone here from CHP to chime in on the law that they can enforce?
I've traveled from CA - AZ and CA - NV few times, and have yet to see state border patrol.
IMO, I think California gas stations can refuse to sell you gasoline in one of those containers, but I don't think anyone can confiscate them. Possession of those are not considered illegal, most they'll ask you to empty the gas by putting the gas in your motorcycle/car, etc, and give you a an advice not to use it. I believe usage of these are controlled through shops, i.e. it is illegal to sell them in California.
Recently, I purchased a Rotopax, and I also purchased a yellow spout to replace the standard that comes with them, right here in CA. I haven't used it, but I believe it won't spill. My next visit to Canada, I plan on buying 5L by Scepter for $5.99 and bring it back with me.
OK so you made me look up the law. Apparently CARB can only make the selling of the offending gas cans illegal. I looked up hazardous as well as flammable and combustible vehicle codes and found nothing related to gas can fill spout regs. There is nothing to be found regarding filling of said offending spouts either.