How to make cheap and heavy spoke wheel weights

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Skippii, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. Beezer

    Beezer Long timer

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    "torpedo" fishing weights.... couple oz each, & ya,,,, seems to be an excessive out of balance you have
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  2. willis 2000

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    ya had another thread showing deterioration of your rims
    your charging system is causing the alloys to react
    put on a mosfet rr
    ,repair previous damage
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  3. willis 2000

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    are you unconcerned about dissimilar metals
    even with a lead buffer
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  4. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Somebody needs to take your tools away, Skippii :rofl

    About half the time I think you are trolling, and the other half the time, I'm really not so sure...
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  5. ohgood

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    ok, just checking :)
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  6. VonHelm

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    9 oz? WTF?

    Are you trying to balance a bent rim? :crazy
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  7. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    That's not really accurate. I said that there was no indication of a light or heavy spot on the tire, and I disagreed with the assumption that it was pure coincidence that the heaviest spot on the rim just happened to be exactly where the giant old rimlock was installed. That indicated to me that the rimlock is causing the weight.
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  8. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    During reactions or compounds where lead is volatile, like leaded gasoline exhausts and stuff like that.

    Lead melts around 600*F, and boils well over 3,000*F. I don't suspect that heating it to a barely liquid state is going to give off a lot of fumes, in the same way that puddles of mercury don't evaporate.
    Still, I had the fan going and the respirator on because as I always say, Safety Third.
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  9. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    If I'm not riding, I like to spend my days off in the garage finding creative solutions for stuff like this. For me, it is very therapeutic and time well spent.
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  10. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    I had another bike with a much smaller rimlock that I took to a pro mechanic to have him balance. It took him over and hour and 5.55oz of weights for him to do it.
    This rim lock is about twice the size, so I don't think it's that unreasonable.
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  11. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    This rim rear rim is not damaged.
    The front rim of this bike had corrosion, but balanced easily.
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    It's much nicer to ride a balanced wheel than not, but it sure seems your adding a lot of pain just to save a few bucks. There are some solutions that work rather well and not that much. Motion Pro makes a light weight rim lock.
    http://www.dirtrider.com/tests/parts-accessories/141_1007_motion_pro_liteloc_rim_lock_review/

    You can go tubeless but for a price. In the old days we used to take out the rim locks and drill holes in the rims and screw stainless 10# screws into the bead. This allowed the tire to run at fairly low pressures and still balance, using strip weights. I am also in agreement with others that your having to use WAY to much weight. At most I would accept is 1 ounce. It will vary depending on where the rim loc is compared to the valve stem.
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  13. freeflow

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    a rim lock on an XT350 :poser
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  14. joexr

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    Good point.:lol3
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  15. VonHelm

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    Bless yer heart, Skippii.

    While I find your posts endlessly entertaining, having to add that much weight to a motorcycle wheel is indicative that there is something wrong. The wheel is bent, out-of-round, or desperately needs to be trued.

    If you spent half as much effort diagnosing and correcting the problem as you spend endless hours concocting cockamamy solutions, you'd be way ahead of the game.
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  16. ABHooligan

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    Skippii,
    I always tune in to your threads. They're fascinating to me. I can identify with your enjoyment of garage tinkering/fabricating, but my mind doesnt reach the same mad-scientist-on-opiated-shrooms level.

    However, I wouldn't want to be riding (or driving an armored truck) behind you when one of those weights becomes a projectile.

    "Motorcyclist killed by homemade sabot round" Tonight at eleven.

    I've ridden a peppy xt350, and never thought it had enough juice to need rim locks.
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  17. oPAULo

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    Old rim locks are heavy. HEAVY.
    Without a rim lock, an XT350 will shuck a tire in a heartbeat in the nasty woods at 8-10 psi.
    Zero dollars spent.
    Tinkering in the garage like men do.
    A fine job Skippii.
    Mine haven't moved in 4+ years and 20+ thousand miles of road, gravel, dirt, trail and track.
    Got to be close to 9 oz.
    [​IMG]
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  18. CycleDoc59

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    It's normal to install 2 rimlocks opposite each other.
    Because they are heavy. Then heavy balancing weights are not needed.

    Lead "egg" sinkers range from 1/4oz up to
    8oz each. I drill a small hole end to end, then saw in a split
    and squeeze on the spokes. Reusable too...
    http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Egg-Sinkers/product/7564/
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  19. ONandOFF

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    I also have two like these plus one that looks like their kid: 2 - 1/2 Ounces total. I thought that was a lot of weight on a wheel. Sure looks like a lot. But they've been needed to balance through a handful of tires already, not to mention through a rim change. They stayed in place even as the rim sustained sufficient pounding to crack. It rides as smooth as a knobby allows at 90mph.

    I suspect Skippii probably spun the rim and looked for out-of-round and out-of-true. Yes, 9Oz does seem excessive, but it is what it is, and that's the weight it took to balance (if the weight measurement is accurate). And if he'd rather roll his own than pick up weights like this at a dealer, well I have seen folks do much less productive things. Even if he does use non-ViseGrip ViseGrips!
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  20. LexLeroy

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    Spent uranium fuel rods... they're pretty heavy. :evil 3/4" brass rod is cheaper, however, and you could make yourself some fancy re-usable weights with the addition of some tapped holes and stainless set screws. Wouldn't look as cool as the pipe nipples, but sometimes one must settle for less.
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