How wide can a sidecar outfit be?

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  1. johno

    johno Long timer

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    Chris, is that bloke from Adelaide??
    Was at BMW in Adelaide early last year, and there was a bloke with a K outfit there that day. Looked like it had been around a bit:eek1 . Was the release of the new F650GS twin.
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  2. Andrew2

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    Chris,what sort of winch is that.
    [​IMG]
    Is there any reason a boat winch( $140) can't be used instead of paying $1100+ for a Warne winch.

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  3. McCardigan

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    Could well have been Harry, he does get around a bit as you have noticed, but he lives in Jerramungup in SW West Oz, Cecil lives in Bendigo.

    Cheers
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  4. McCardigan

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    G/day Andrew

    Nope, just that it need more effort then an electrical one:D

    The winch on Harry's is hand driven, Johns electric winch was a cheap chinese model and burnt out after a few goes.

    BTW I paid less then $700 Aus for a 3000lb genuine Warne out of the States 12 months ago and have 2 deep cell batteries to power it.

    Cheers
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  5. Andrew2

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    I meant to say an electric boat winch Chris.
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  6. IsAnOzzie

    IsAnOzzie Been here awhile

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  7. FR700

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    OK ... put us out of our misery ... just how much wider was it ?


    You're showing your age by quoting that commercial :lol3



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  8. bmwhacker

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    No wider than this:

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  9. karitoki

    karitoki Been here awhile

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    I'm thinking I'd be looking for a new rig if I was in Oz:D
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  10. tallnbig68

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    Just reading the thread and thinking...metric width of 1850mm is roughly six feet give or take.

    Legal width of any vehicle here in the province of Ontario Canada is 108" or nine feet.

    My Honda Ridgeline truck (which is not a large pickup truck here by any stretch of the imagination)
    has a physical width of 77.8 inches, not including side mirrors or side step bars.

    So looking at your law that six foot width is just a wee bit narrow and could be interesting
    as to a comfortable to operate setup. (Bloody politicians, they ruin life for us all!)

    As the OP is in the southern climes, it is now December 27, 2012 and we have a howling blizzard
    of snow here at the west end of Lake Ontario (one of the five Great Lakes)about 35 miles west of Toronto
    Ontario Canada..looks like the snowplows will be out in full force in an hour or so, it is now 01:31:00 Eastern
    North American Standard Time.
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  11. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Legal width is 1850mm, measured from the rider's footrest on the right hand side [naturally], not the handlebars. :deal
    Information supplied to Gnome [while @ the Sidecar Rally], from Shaun Kelly [Engineer] of Bathurst :eek1
    Hope that helps, this is for NSW
    Cheers
    Baza
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  12. brstar

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  13. IsAnOzzie

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    6.5.2.2 In the case of a three wheel vehicle (LB or LE) or a motor cycle with a side car (LD), the maximum width must not exceed 1,850 mm.

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    The maximum width of the combination, including any load and equipment, must not exceed
    1.85m.

    Overall width I take to be from the outer most point to the outer most point?

    If Sean Kelly (SRK) measures from the footpeg it might be worth a trip to Bathurst.
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  14. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Overall width I take to be from the outer most point to the outer most point?

    If Sean Kelly (SRK) measures from the footpeg it might be worth a trip to Bathurst.[/QUOTE]

    going on what Gnome said, it might be worth the effort :deal
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    my waterbottle outfit was a good 2m wide but that was back in the '70s :eek1
    Cheers
    Baza
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  15. Rockman

    Rockman Been here awhile

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    Checked mine - 1830 to the footpeg, 1860 to the outside of the handlebars. Close enough I think.

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