HPN - I just want one

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Dakar83, May 4, 2012.

  1. rediRrakaD

    rediRrakaD Whoopdie do

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    Me too!
    :rofl
    Seen this yet??
    http://www.speedhut.com/gauge_products-gauge_type-speedometer_GPS.htm
    Eliminates many issues!
    Ordered today for my version of HPN.

    Cheers,
    S.
  2. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Your right there is a bit more to it. I haven't got all the detail yet but Dave is going to send it through. He mentioned 2 things the master cylinder size is 10.5, the Handle bar adaptor bracket needs to be sized according to the size of any switch block fitted. In the case of the white HPM it is the largest offset adaptor. I will post more info as it comes to hand.
  3. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    I like the look of those gauges, wish I'd seen those before going the Vapour route . The Vapour works ok but it is very hard to read. A combination of mounting position and backlit LCD screen (limited on Lynx dash) and too much info crammed into each screen making individual read outs too small to read easily. Even the idiot lights on the dash are hard to read when the sun is shining on the dash.
  4. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    The R100GS that is being built for me will have a Vapour fitted into a Lynx fairing. The builder twigged that the dash angle is wrong so he will be making a surround for the Vapour and then fitting that into the dash at an angle where it can be easily read. Separate idiot lights will be fitted into the dash.
  5. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    That sounds like a good plan. I have mounted my Zumo 550 above h vapour an use that for speed redout as its nice and clear. I might have a think about changing the angle. Have you sourced the right cable and sensor for engine temp?
  6. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    I`m going over the workshop tomorrow to get some tires fitted to my 1100GS, I`ll find out about the sensor.
  7. rediRrakaD

    rediRrakaD Whoopdie do

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    I had my heart set on this:
    http://motogadget.com/de/fahrzeugtyp/enduro-off-road-rally.html
    Until seeing the GPS based gauge.
    NO more wire down the fork! Custom colors, 2 diameters available.
    Lots of info on the small led screen.
    Oh and lifetime warranty made it an easy choice.
    You guys make me proud of my Aussie heritage:wink:.
    Keep up the nice work.

    Cheers,
    S.
  8. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    Change of spec (apparently), we are going with an Acewell unit now; much the same as the Vapour, but the one we`re using doesn`t have built in idiot lights. Not having a temp gauge, so cable and sensor won`t be needed.

    I haven`t got the focus to work out how to post pics here, so it you want to PM me an email address, I`ll send a pic of what my mate has done with his lynx/Vapour fitment.
  9. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Hello Airhead Wrangler

    Here is some more detail on that Magura Clutch
    Part numbers included

    • [FONT=&quot]0120655 - Slave cylinder[/FONT]
    • [FONT=&quot]0120575 - Master cylinder 10.5mm Piston, Big space for switch, to be used with 1045mm length hose[/FONT]
  10. Airhead Wrangler

    Airhead Wrangler Long timer

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    SWEET! Thanks. The hose is really that short, huh? I'm not near a BMW clutch cable to compare, but when I saw the available lengths I figured I'd need something longer. Good to know. I also just found this design guide on venhill's site: http://www.venhill.co.uk/Downloads/HymecSelection.pdf
  11. Airhead Wrangler

    Airhead Wrangler Long timer

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    ...also any chance of snapping a photo of how he rigged up a long enough pull rod?
  12. Sutherngintelmen

    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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  13. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    The pull rod is extended at the join you see in this picture, Dave made up the extension. I will try and get some details and better pics

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  14. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    The important points for the clutch are master cylinder 10.5 to get enough travel on the actuator rod. Ten appropriate size mounting bracket for your left hand switch block clearance. The actuator rod was extended using a stainless steel spoke cut to length and threaded to allow join and fine adjustment. Coupling is brass see close up below

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  15. Airhead Wrangler

    Airhead Wrangler Long timer

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    I thought that looked like a spoke. Thanks for the writeup on that. I may add that to my list of eventual improvements.
  16. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    Nice hydraulic clutch, but I like the simplicity and easy maintenance of the cable clutch. AW- I'm surprised you'd want this for a RTW bike!??
  17. Airhead Wrangler

    Airhead Wrangler Long timer

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    It's not ALWAYS a RTW bike. It's more of an all purpose bike. Day trips, weekend trips, ride around town errand runner, week-long trips, year-long trips, etc. I really like the hydraulic clutches I've used on my friends' road and dirt bikes and by now they've become pretty reliable. I guess for any long trips I'd just switch back to the cable. It'd be a 10 minute job tops to switch it back.
  18. ontic

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    As I've said before when the topic arose, I'm definitely in favour of a (good quality, nicely installed and protected by bash gaurd) hydraulic clutch. I've had two clutch cable failures in as many years on my 90/6, many days ride from home- the first one two days before christmas. First time I had a spare cable with me, second time I clutchless shifter for a while and got a cable from a friend. Both times were headaches.
    In the whole time I've owned it I've had zero problems with my old master cylinder or calipers.
    Those magura kits sound pretty reliable... time will tell.
    If the bike in question didn't already have a hydraulic system that required maintenance, then yeah, if you were so inclined, I'd say KISS- but to me as it is I think... what is one more hydraulic system to maintain? I'd bleed my brake when I did my clutch, and do my clutch when I did my brake, and they'd both be happier for it. If the clutch failed, I'd just be back to clutchless shifting like when your last cable fails.

    I'd really like to hear the short and longer term feedback on this unit.
    I've put an ASV clutch perch on my G/S- it really feels fantastic so I am in no rush to change it, but sometime down the line I'm inclined towards hydraulic. I got no luck with cables.
    Cheers,
  19. Airhead Wrangler

    Airhead Wrangler Long timer

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    The only kicker is that the hydraulic clutches use mineral oil rather than more widely available DOT 3 or 5. Anything else will eat the seals. You might be able to get away with some kind of cooking oil in a pinch if you had to drain and rebleed the system for whatever reason. Actually I think they have a seal kit you can get that allows use of brake fluid instead of mineral oil. Details.

    From what I've seen on my friends' bikes the hydraulic clutches have been pretty reliable. I've gone through several clutch cables in the time they've had their hydraulic clutches which they basically haven't touched. The one exception being the time a friend low sided his 950 adventure on the left side doing around 60mph . The clutch master cylinder took quite a hit and shattered. My friend was also in pretty bad shape, so I let him ride my bike. I had to ride his bike clutchless shifting with VERY bent handlebars from central oregon back to Seattle. 6-7 hours on small two lane roads, got back around 2:00AM. In that particular case we probably could've bodged together a cable actuated clutch. There was no possibility for any roadside hillbilly fixes with the hydraulic clutch.
  20. Chad M

    Chad M A full head of air.

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    A friend experimented with baby oil in the hydraulic clutch on his KTM 640, as I remember, he suffered no ill effect from using this very common mineral oil. Hillbilly repairs might be possible with a grocery nearby.