HPN - I just want one

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Dakar83, May 4, 2012.

  1. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    ..... The one exception being the time a friend low sided his 950 adventure on the left side doing around 60mph . The clutch master cylinder took quite a hit and shattered. My friend was also in pretty bad shape, so I let him ride my bike...."

    Well if one bust the slave on the BMW then I'd be pretty sure the slave will be the least of your worries!!!:cry
  2. Airhead Wrangler

    Airhead Wrangler Long timer

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    Breaking the slave cylinder would be tough. Busting up the master not as much, but then again it's not any more vulnerable than your front brake MC either.
  3. rediRrakaD

    rediRrakaD Whoopdie do

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    Baby oil would work... the reason WHY you need more oil would be the concern for me.
    Middle of nowhere may have the oil, but o-rings or???
    Neat idea though.
    S.
  4. BMBoy

    BMBoy Phantom

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    Hey Dakar83

    After a little time to get used to the bike......

    How's it feel on/off road?

    Has it filled the gap between the DR and the 1200? :ear
  5. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Hello BMBoy

    I have done a bit short of 1000km and it's back at the workshop for the run in 1000km service. The forks were leaking badly and the front suspension was too soft, so the forks have been sent to Teknik for a rebuild. But despite that I have loved every km. if you look back through my posts you'll see that I say it feels so much lighter than the 1200. The seating position is better for dirt rides and I have fitted a winglet to the Lynx Screen so that I can ride visor up on the highway then just reach forward and slide the screen down when I go onto dirt. I have only done +/- 20km on dirt so far because of the front fork situation but I was very happy with the handling. It tracks well through soft sand and gave me a lot of confidence on the gravel and through the ruts. The motor has plenty of torque and little throttle use is required in soft sand, it just pulls through effortlessly. The low speed handling on the dirt is so much better than the 1200. It's just planted and goes where you want, gives a very confident feel. I kept the speed down especially through the whoops and pot holes because of the front shocks but it put a big smile on the dial.

    So comparisons, on the black top it is way more comfortable and better handling than the DR650, of course not as comfortable and smooth as the 1200 but much closer to the 1200 than the 650, and corners very well. On the dirt mindful I really need more km under the belt, but I would say much closer to the 650 than the 1200. In fact the seating position for me at 6'5" is better than the DR650 and I think I would be happy to take the HPM everywhere I have been on the 650, I would not say the same for the 1200.

    I am yet to get the HPM weighed but to give you an idea when stationary I can lean it right over comfortably and lift it back up with ease and confidence. If I tried to lean the 1200 over like that it would just keep going and lay down. I believe it's going to do even better than fill the gap between 1200 and 650, it promises to give me the all the fun and agility of the 650 off road with 80% or so of the comfort of the 1200 for black top touring.
  6. R100LT

    R100LT Chasing 11

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    Really been liking your thread . Next time you are down Nannup way ... hit me up . Whilst I don't do gravel ... I can always point you in the way of a few nice tracks
  7. ms-oz

    ms-oz Mike

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    I estimate your HPM 220 KG (105 KG front and 115 KG on the rear) including 43lt. fuel. With helium in the tyres I gain 198 KG.

  8. b0mb3r

    b0mb3r Old Git

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    Came over this last night .... hmmmm now you got me thinking :evil
    hurry up and get this finished tho .. need to no what to do :rofl
    thanks for the build D83 :clap
  9. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the offer R100LT, I look forward to getting the HPM down to the South West and riding some of those trails
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    Hi b0mb3r waiting is the hardest part.

    Turns out the ebay KTM forks (WP50 extremes) came of of a 380exc not a 620 or 640LC4 consequently apart from needing new seals they need re springing and valving for a heavier load (....mostly the bike :D). I spoke to the guys at Teknik suspension today and they say they should have them rebuilt by the end of this week. Then its back on the truck to travel across Oz to WA. Those forks will have done more mileage in the last month than the HPM! :huh

    In the interim I wasn't happy with the center stand, it had been copied from a copy fabricated from measurements and photo's, while it worked it was a mammoth task getting the bike onto and off the center stand. In the first 2 weeks when I had no side stand it was a royal PIA especially after a long ride when energy levels had been depleted and there was no easy option of a side stand! In fact my back was telling me in no uncertain terms it did not appreciate this set-up and something was going to go! :eek1

    So I found a purpose built HPN C/Stand on SWT's site in Germany and it arrived 2 weeks ago. I figured by the time I had messed around getting the original C/stand right I would have spent more $ than getting a new one, and with no certainty of success.

    So now I wait.....

    HPM less I went for a ride in the hills on the DR, its still a good bike but I prefer the ergonomics of the HPM and definitely prefer the twin over the single mill!

    waiting..waiting..Doh!
  10. ms-oz

    ms-oz Mike

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    maybe that is an option?
  11. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Still waiting on the return of my forks from Teknic, but in the interim here are some pictures of HPM2 which finally made it out of the workshop and escaped to freedom! :clap

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  12. Sutherngintelmen

    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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    Let me be the first to say:raabia:tb:pynd
  13. ms-oz

    ms-oz Mike

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    you wanna hear her, she sounds bloody awesome[


    QUOTE=Dakar83;19559482]Still waiting on the return of my forks from Teknic, but in the interim here are some pictures of HPM2 which finally made it out of the workshop and escaped to freedom! :clap

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  14. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    A few questions: Have you done any out of town night riding yet, I`m wondering how the lights are? Is one low beam, the other high beam or both together?

    How do you find the Mitas E09 Dakar front tire? I really liked the TKC80 on the front of my 1100GS.
  15. poz960

    poz960 n00b

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    Hello, great job well done.

    I just wanted to say that the world is really small because this bike in the photo was my construction of special based on r80 G / S that I sold and sent to an Italian guy living in Australia. The bike was used for a journey on the Silk Road to Italy.
    Here you can see pictures of the bike before it sold.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/103752866130353136987/SpecialR80GS#5253804398331652482

    While here my latest creation

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821996
  16. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Hello poz960

    Thanks for the comments and yes I believe you are right I think it is the same bike you sold, small world indeed, seeing it at the Perth workshop was my inspiration to pursue this build. I like your projects, very nice indeed.

    Hi GSD4ME I have not yet tried out the Lynx lights at night, I am still waiting on the forks to be returned, but I will certainly let you know what they are like. The guy I spoke to at Brittania composites talked me out of the HID high beam for the Lynx saying that compared to standard lighting the Hella units in the Lynx would be significantly better and the HID would not be necessary. So optimistically I wait to see! The fairing is good, I have added a windscreen extension as I am 6'5" it does the job and I can raise or lower the screen in seconds which is great when transitioning from the road to off road, very happy with this config. It also accommodates the Garmin Zumo nicely, I will post some picks when I get the bike back.
    As for the Mitas Dakar front tyre so far so good, it corners well, grips well and so far is not noisy. I have Heidenau's for R1200GSA they are great but get noisy as they wear in.

    Hey Mike I am not ready for the hydraulic centre stand yet! cheeky bugger ;-)
    I can lift the R1200GSA onto its center stand easily so why should I put up with the wrong configuration on the HPM. I think the new Center stand from Swt-De should sort it out.

    More to come in a couple of weeks...
  17. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    The forks are back, Teknic ended up fitting WR450 cartridges and 6.5 springs, one side adjustable for rebound the other for compression. The new centre stand has also been fitted and is so much better, it is much easier to operate no more back ache!

    I took the HPM down to Kirup and the West Coast Trail Bike Park for the BMW Off Road course this weekend, it was a great 2 days. The park is amazing, 80kms of tracks through blue gum and natural forest. Hills, water, mud, gravel, single track the works. The course was run for BMW by Wayne and Steve from Stay Upright and they did a great job, it was well worth it to me. I would also highly recommend West Coast Trail Bike Safaris, their ride park is fantastic and they run some great organized trail rides through the South West. I came away with better techniques for cornering, braking, hill descents etc and feel a lot more confident and comfortable on loose gravel than before.

    I was really happy with how the bike performed, after 2 days solid riding I am loving it's off road ability. I need slightly higher bar risers for comfort standing up and would like to work out how to use the pivot pegz again as they are more comfortable than the SWT set back pegs, but these are small niggles. Once again the bike shined for it's stability, the suspension was significantly better and the rocks and ruts were no problem. The effortless torque and relatively light weight made for a fun and very manageable combination. I now feel that I would be happy to ride the HPM anywhere I would take the DR650

    I took my camera to the course but unfortunately I left the memory card behind (in my computer). I hope to get some pictures from some of the others who attended, if it works out I might post some.
  18. Sutherngintelmen

    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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    Sounds like a very good time, hope you are able to get some pics for us. Couldn't agree more on your 'effortless torque and relatively light' comments - I love the way this bike tractors.

    You may have already solved this, the way I read your pegz comment but I have taken mine off. One thing I didn't like on this bike is the narrow pegs. Thought I'd go with pivots for wider platform but found they jammed up my size 10 shifter. Am back to oems.

    Did you mod to set back further? If yes do tell, if not just a heads up.
  19. Dakar83

    Dakar83 Been here awhile

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    Hi there Suthern, I tried pivot pegz originally because I use and like them on my DR 650, like you ( I am size 12 shoe) I found the gap between peg and shifter / brake too small. I also found with off road boots especially on the brake side I had trouble fitting my foot between the brake pedal and the carburetor bowl. So the pivots were replaced by lowered set back pegs from SWT

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    During the 2 days riding at the BMW Off Road course we spent most of the time standing on the pegs and even though the SWT pegs are wider than stock by the end of each day my feet were feeling a bit sore.
    Given I also needed to have my side stand modified after changing centre stand and pegs I thought I would ask Frank the fabricator if he could make me some adapters so that I could once again use the Pivot Pegz. This is what he came up with...

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    The Pegz are mounted back to front, I.e left hand peg on the right side and vice versa, but it works!
    The adapters are made out of stainless steel a little heavy but strong.
  20. Rucksta

    Rucksta SS Blowhard

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    Do the pegs still fold back as well as pivot?
    If not.
    Would the folding function be restored by flipping the adapter left to right?