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Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Kokopelli, Nov 24, 2011.
Perhaps BB means the fork oil deteriorating?
Ohlins recommends that you have the shock serviced at 20,000 km intervals, and that includes a fluid change.
And with a quality, well set up shock you notice the decline, from just serviced out to service time.
But with the WP on my G/S matched to the stock forks it doesnt make much difference, it didnt change much in 70,000 km and servicing it didnt make much of a improvement - a second rate set up just stays second rate, as SS has confirmed.
Any oil degrades in use, fork and shock, but the shock fluid seems to go quicker than the full synthetic 7 1/2 wt HVI suspension fluid I use in the forks, probably due to the closer tolerances in the shock.
Fork oil doesn't degrade in so much as it gets contaminated. There is very little shearing and the heat isn't that much. What is wearing out in those Ohlins besides needing to recharge the gas? Bushings? Having to rebuild your street bike shock every 12k miles is unacceptable to me. I picked Fox when I got a shock for my Mono for all the oil leaks and trouble I have seen with Ohlins. Hopefully it isn't the shock body wearing out?
Of course they would spec a short service interval, to cover ass, much like the 70 hour bottom end replacement spec on the G450X and the minute you take it (the fluid) out of the shock to do anything, you would be silly to put it back in.
That part of the story I can understand. It's the rest of it that I can't figure and since that is the whole reason for going into it in the first place it's not the answer I was looking for.
Took the bike out for a short ride due to a kick ass thunder storm coming in...yeah I know. But anyway used only 150mm of fork travel on the ride. After riding w/ the 4.8 spring today I'm thinking the 5.8 will be too stiff. I'll still give it a go at a later date, but still want to fiddle with the 4.8 spring.
Running the 4.8 spring and 35mm spacer seems more acceptable to me. But dang I wish I knew what I was doing on the comp and rebound adjustments. My butt gauge just isn't that sensitive. It may just take A LOT of fiddling for me.
Run em all the way in, and then all the way out a few times over the same piece of uneven ground. YOu'll feel a difference, I think. I agree, the .48's are a pretty good size spring. Doesnt pay to overthink it.
The rougher the road the easier it is to tell what is wrong - I farted and fiddled around with the road set up my VFR , getting nowhere, but one run down a potholed and corrugated dirt track and I new what I needed.
Apart from clean underpants, that is.
One Canadian inmate has his cartridges sitting at customs in Toronto. He needs to pay the duty and pick them up. I haven't got time to look up who it is, but I would appreciate if this was done promptly. I guess they would be sent back to Racetech, if this is not done asap.
Out of contact for a few days. Riding in The Kootenays in Beautiful British Columbia.
Customs and Duty all paid, now.
Strangely enough my shipment is doing the final 3500km of its 8000km journey by FedEx Ground ????
Any more reports on the inserts ???
Guess I'm late to the party, any chance of getting more of these? I don't see the option listed on the racetech site, and my front suspension, which was apparently "modernized" with progressive springs , is woefully inadequate for my 250lb frame (you guys are talking about .58kg/mm, they recommend .98 for me!). This sucker dives at the slightest tap of the front brake, hasn't bottomed out yet tho. What are my options? If I can't get these, should I simply get the .98 springs they recommend and install the cartridge emulators?
You could try and contact them directly through e-mail. If you are looking for an emulator I have the one that came out of my forks that I could part with. Very few miles on it!
Just note - Racetech and HH-Racetech (Germany) are different companies. Former for the emulators, latter for the cartridge inserts.
Thank you, I wondered about thatt. Anyone have a link and/or contact info, I tried google, but unfortunately that didn't turn up anything.
google- HH Race Tech..it'll come up. I could have stickied the link, wanted to test you.
Before the HH Race Tech inserts I had Race Tech (USA) .80 kg springs in the GS forks and found them good, but I'm not a gravitationally challenged as you.
As far as the HH Race Tech inserts 4.8 springs the lighter spring is growing on me. I do have the 5.8 springs to try, but it might be a while before I do the switch.
The link for HH is on the first page of this thread aint it?
SHHHHHH, he might find it
So what made the difference? Seems like you were unhappy with the lighter springs and got the more stiff springs sent to you. Did you put in a bigger spacer? or?
I thought the spring rates were .48 and .58
edit: I have referred to them as 4.8 and 5.8 myself which is it...I'm so confused. ( as a matter of insignificance, my "heavy" springs with the HH settings fell right in the range with no initial adjustment.)
I Finally got my kit.Not very happy to come homa and just find NZ$1000 dollars worth of stuff just sitting on the front porch.After the address (which was slightly wrong on the parcel but perfect in the other paperwork) and mu hassles withthe customs payment(another NZ$200) i finally have them.Now i have to find the smoke in my ignition system
the +10 mm spacer added seems to help. decreased the SAG about 10mm also, which I'm happier with. They haven't been extensively tested yet but the issue of bottoming out is less. Eventually the 5.8 will be fitted but need to mess w/ the 4.8 more.
Every other place I've seen rates the springs at something like .48kg/mm and not 4.8 like HH, so originally referred to the springs as .48 but have gone back and forth on placement of the decimal.
btw, no importation tax here in the USA